Another little change to the long term visa laws.

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Re: Another little change to the long term visa laws.

Post by pinkmagic » Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:23 am

It is a civil ceremony Yildez, but they clearly must still insist to see proof of conversation from a man wishing to marry a Muslim women if he was born non Muslim.
We had to declare our religions and these were noted.



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Re: Another little change to the long term visa laws.

Post by steigen » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:16 am

OK I get it now ;) . Its the European man that has to convert if he marries a Muslim lady. Apologies,I was basing it on a European lady marrying a Muslim man! (my own experience)
It must be a huge commitment for any man to do this,in order to marry his loved one.

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Re: Another little change to the long term visa laws.

Post by Who2 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:52 am

A pal of mine Steph converted and married a Muslim girl.
He changed his name to Mohammed had a kid and was a great house painter.
On Fridays he was always late for the Mosque, he went covered in paint and no-one battered an eye lid.
Later it was discovered when he married her she was only 15 and from a family of shamutas, the whole family were at it.
The Father went to jail, Steph went to Thailand I think, but the girl whom he married,
her using her sisters name now works as a cleaner in Luxor airport, I still bump into her when leaving.
So beware when marrying anybody......... 8)
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Re: Another little change to the long term visa laws.

Post by carrie » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:59 pm

If a non Muslim man wants to marry a marry Muslim girl and converts to Islam does he have to be circumcised?

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Re: Another little change to the long term visa laws.

Post by pinkmagic » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:19 pm

I would imagine so Carrie, not for the faint hearted! Perhaps Dusak can enlighten us!

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Re: Another little change to the long term visa laws.

Post by Yildez » Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:12 pm

I believe so!

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Re: Another little change to the long term visa laws.

Post by newcastle » Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:47 pm

It's not compulsory. It's up to the convert.
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Re: Another little change to the long term visa laws.

Post by DJKeefy » Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:51 pm

carrie wrote:If a non Muslim man wants to marry a marry Muslim girl and converts to Islam does he have to be circumcised?
You are joking? having a laugh?

I thought circumcision was not mentioned in the Qur'an (so not a religious thing) and was only done for cleanliness :ni:
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Re: Another little change to the long term visa laws.

Post by newcastle » Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:54 pm

Circumcision is mentioned several times ( for boys) in the Qur'an. It's recommended but not compulsory.
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Re: Another little change to the long term visa laws.

Post by DJKeefy » Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:57 pm

newcastle wrote:Circumcision is mentioned several times in the Qur'an. It's recommended but not compulsory.
From the BBC website:
Circumcision is not mentioned in the Qur'an but it is highlighted in the Sunnah (the Prophet Muhammad's recorded words and actions). In the Sunnah, Muhammad stated that circumcision was a "law for men."

Circumcision is not compulsory in Islam but it is an important ritual aimed at improving cleanliness. It is strongly encouraged but not enforced.
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Re: Another little change to the long term visa laws.

Post by newcastle » Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:07 pm

Sorry.....yes, sunnah rather than Qur'an itself.

As an act recommended by Mohammed it's pretty universally followed by muslims. Not that the young boys it's done to have much choice

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Re: Another little change to the long term visa laws.

Post by carrie » Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:22 pm

I can't imagine any Muslim man not following the words of the Prophet. :)

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Re: Another little change to the long term visa laws.

Post by newcastle » Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:36 pm

carrie wrote:I can't imagine any Muslim man not following the words of the Prophet. :)
Of course not........absolutely ;)

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Re: Another little change to the long term visa laws.

Post by steigen » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:10 pm

newcastle wrote:
carrie wrote:I can't imagine any Muslim man not following the words of the Prophet. :)
Firstly, no scholar has stated that circumcision is a prerequisite to converting to Islam -- one can definitely become Muslim even if one is not circumcised. As to the question of whether one should get a circumcision after conversion: there is division on this question but most of the scholarly opinions seems to be that it is not required but may be praiseworthy.
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Re: Another little change to the long term visa laws.

Post by DJKeefy » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:58 am

I suppose it would be difficult to enforce, I doubt they give papers out at doctors etc. to say you have been circumcised :ni: so how could you prove it :oops: Maybe they could appoint a new job opportunity for someone: "cock analyser" to check all new converts :lol:
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Re: Another little change to the long term visa laws.

Post by newcastle » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:48 am

As Jews and most Copts are also circumcised, whipping out the relevant appendage wouldn't say much about your religious affiliation in Egypt!

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Re: Another little change to the long term visa laws.

Post by Dusak » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:04 am

I enjoy reading these educational snippets. They tend to be a cut above the usual ones.
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