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Egypt coverage in the Guardian

Post by LivinginLuxor » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:00 am

Today's Guardian has 4 informative articles about the ongoing revolution here. To me, the most interesting is this one:-

"The struggle against a state that seeks to deny its people any genuine empowerment is playing out on the streets of Heliopolis"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/de ... -continues

The others are:-
"Mohamed Morsi supporters withdraw before deadline set by army amid worsening standoff with opposition over decrees"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/de ... ly-clashes

"Egypt's newly formed opposition coalition, the National Salvation Front, brings together three key figures who are leading protests against President Mohamed Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood. The front includes the Constitution party, the Egyptian Popular Current, the Social Democratic party and the Socialist Popular Alliance party."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/de ... ey-players

"By their own admission, western countries such as the US and Britain failed to see Egypt's revolution coming. But are they making the same mistake twice?"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... grab-egypt

Reporting at its best!


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Re: Egypt coverage in the Guardian

Post by Remus » Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:16 am

I agree - but does that make us both wrong?

See also 'Finger-licking good' in today's Alarebiya (about M's speech) and Hani Shukrallah's 'The decline and fall of the MB' in Al-Ahram.

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Re: Egypt coverage in the Guardian

Post by TonyC » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:07 am

LivinginLuxor wrote:Today's Guardian has 4 informative articles about the ongoing revolution here. [...]

Reporting at its best!
Well, reporting with a fair bit of comment thrown in! There's a fifth informative article, too, addressing the workings of the constitution panel, but as it's written by someone on the Morsi side of the coin (and a a Nour party spokesman!) it may not be regarded as important!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... eclaration

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Re: Egypt coverage in the Guardian

Post by Hafiz » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:54 pm

I take the Guardian with a left hand full of salt.

Wouldn't the Guardian, given its well known left liberal line, be very likely to take a negative view of a state with a strong religious element in its politics.

Think that John Leyne BBC Radio has been the most even handed and calm in the past few months and he has the benefit of being on the ground unlike most others. A few famous faces are writing sage words on Egypt whilst holding up a bar in Beruit, and the most famous of these is a Guardian God.

Every journalist has an opinion on the way this is going but none are prepared to accept that their previous prognostications were all wrong. Not one of these journalists or think tank sages predicted the Arab spring or anything that has followed (there is a junior US academic who claims to have predicted but no one has given him a promotion for being right when everyone else was wrong).

Maybe the lesson is that the whole process (and what is happening in Syria) is too complex to predict in advance and its course is also unclear. Another lesson could be that if some of these think tanks were actually in the countries they claim to study or if journalists where they were supposed to be writing about the situation might be better reported and analyzed.

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Re: Egypt coverage in the Guardian

Post by Bullet Magnet » Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:43 pm

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Re: Egypt coverage in the Guardian

Post by Teddyboy » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:35 pm

Hafiz, you'll have to stop this. We're not accustomed to such measured words of wisdom on here.

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Re: Egypt coverage in the Guardian

Post by Stevepj » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:04 am

The Guardian is highly critical of the religious right in the USA (rightly so) but gives political Islam a much easier time. It often publishes articles on CiF by members of the Brotherhood, Hamas and recently the Egyptian Salafists and its papers readership are often dumbfounded as to why a supposedly left of centre paper should publish articles by what many of them regard as clerical fascists. :stp

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Re: Egypt coverage in the Guardian

Post by LivinginLuxor » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:42 am

Maybe it's called balance! The attitude of some of the comments shows utter ignorance of the situation in the Islamic world, and maybe articles like the ones you criticise shed new light on that world for Westerners!
I might agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong!
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Re: Egypt coverage in the Guardian

Post by Teddyboy » Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:25 am

Stevepj, your 'Junior Member' status might get you a bit of leniency this time, but you mustn't question Grauniad reporting or comment. It's second only to the Holy Quran here in the People's Republic of Luxor!

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Re: Egypt coverage in the Guardian

Post by LivinginLuxor » Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:56 am

But I do hear that there is a 5th column of Daily Wail adherents here also!
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Re: Egypt coverage in the Guardian

Post by Teddyboy » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:09 am

You're probably right there, Stan. You couldn't make it up, could you? LOL.

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Re: Egypt coverage in the Guardian

Post by Hafiz » Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:20 pm

Rafik Habib a senior official in the FJP and an advisor to the President resigned the other day - oh and he is a Copt. Makes you wonder about the possible diversity of the FJP.

http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/fo ... s-politics

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