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14 Egyptian men get three years in jail for homosexuality

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An Egyptian court on Sunday sentenced 14 men convicted of being homosexuals to three years in jail each for "abnormal" sexual relations, a defence lawyer said.

Ishaq Wadie said the men were released on bail of 5,000 Egyptian pounds ($283, 230 euros) each until an appeals trial.


HOMOSEXUALITY

The trial of three other suspects was delayed over procedural reasons, the lawyer said.

Homosexuality is not expressly outlawed in Egypt, but gays have previously been charged with debauchery in the deeply conservative Muslim society.

In recent months, authorities have cracked down on people who practice so-called "abnormal" sexual relations, which in Egypt means homosexuality, or for inciting debauchery.

The stepped-up measures follow an outdoor concert in Cairo on September 22 by Lebanese band Mashrou' Leila, when the flag representing the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community was raised.

Thirty-one people have been arrested since the show, 10 directly linked with the event, according to judicial and security officials.


RIGHTS

London-based rights watchdog Amnesty International said the number was more than 70 people, some of whom had been subjected to anal examinations.

On November 9, Amnesty condemned a draft bill in the Egyptian Parliament that would criminalise homosexuality.

The bill lays jail terms of between one and three years for first time offenders, whether the act takes place in public or a private place. Repeat offenders would receive five years.

"This deeply discriminatory bill would be a huge setback for human rights and another nail in the coffin for sexual rights in Egypt," said Najia Bounaim, North Africa campaigns director at Amnesty.

Source: http://www.nation.co.ke/news/africa/Egy ... index.html


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.... another nail in the coffin for sexual rights in Egypt....
I think you'll find that coffin was buried years ago. :(

Still, nothing like a bit of sleaze to distract the plebs from contemplating the real problems within society.

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The pertinent word here is abnormal:.....

ADJECTIVE
Deviating from what is normal or usual, typically in a way that is undesirable or worrying.
‘the illness is recognizable from the patient's abnormal behaviour’ Oxford English.


Abnormality (or dysfunctional behavior), in the vivid sense of something deviating from the normal (c.f. Norm (social)) or differing from the typical (such as an aberration), is a subjectively defined behavioral characteristic, assigned to those with rare or dysfunctional conditions.[1] Behavior is considered abnormal when it is atypical or out of the ordinary, consists of undesirable behavior and results in impairment in the individual's functioning. Wiki.

So, 'don't go sticking it where it don't belong, in 'layman's terms...A Dr writes.... 8)
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Abnormality (or dysfunctional behavior)....is a subjectively defined behavioral characteristic.....
The pertinent word here is subjectively.
Deviating from what is normal or usual, typically in a way that is undesirable or worrying.
Funnily enough, what people do to each other consensually in private is not something I think about....let alone worry about.

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So, 'don't go sticking it where it don't belong, in 'layman's terms...A Dr writes.... 8)
Hmm so a **** *** is out of the question?



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Sounds like the radio 4 morning quiz.**** *** only if administered by a Russian babe... 8)
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Who2 wrote:Sounds like the radio 4 morning quiz.**** *** only if administered by a Russian babe... 8)
I was told the're not into small, so looks like your out of the picture 8)
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Falling so far behind the rest of the world. So Sad!!

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Major Thom wrote:Falling so far behind the rest of the world. So Sad!!
Was that pun intended? :o
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An early Christmas present for Who2 ?

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Well if you shove it where it don't belong don't be surprised if it gets 'lopped off or catch a disease that could kill millions.
Stick to wearing one daughters' girlie dresses like my Clerkenwell neighbour Grayson 8)
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Who2 wrote:Well if you shove it where it don't belong don't be surprised if it gets 'lopped off or catch a disease that could kill millions.
Oh behave yourself Who2, I bet quite a high number of gay men are not into anal sex, unless you are an expert in that area and know different. :roll:

PS: I was only thinking about you on Friday when the Black Friday sales were on. Argos had over 50% off on extra large closets, for some reason you came to mind (strange I know) :st 8)
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We know plenty of Gay people both female and male, and we also have a lot of gay friends. We meet up as friends they all know we are straight so no lines are crossed by either side. Maybe if people had more gay people as friends they would have a greater understanding. The World has changed, the stigma of being gay has now collapsed and should be vanished to the archives of history. The world is changing and people should accept this.
Why would it matter if a person is gay or straight?? (Answers in less than 3000 posts please) If they are not effecting you in anyway live and let live.

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Homophobia has a long history.

I remember learning at school the biblical story of Lot who found his house besieged by the local lads intent on ravishing two male guests (who just happened to be angels of the Lord).

Rather than have his guests suffer this abomination, Lot offered up his two virgin daughters to be gang raped.

I could never get my mind around the morality of this story.

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Years ago there was a kerfuffle about a leader of the Liberal party having an homosexual relationship with a man. My son must have heard on the news the word homosexual and didn't understand what it meant. He asked me and I just didn't know what to say how to explain to a 7 year old. Next day he came home from school and proudly informed me that he now knew he had asked his teacher. The teacher told him that is was a man who loved another man instead of a lady. My son was very happy with that. If everyone accepted that simple explanation there would be many fewer problems.

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HIV Day ?
Iv'e known many Gay people, they are still my friends to this day.
They really do give the best party..
My head barman was gay as a '9 bob note, the best barman ever, even with his sharp wit & slating tongue.
But! big but, HIV is growing it's only the tablets that stop it's death rate.
Having lived in a society for years that thinks every single ex-pat man in Egypt is Gay,
thanks guys you done us a real f****favour.
Trying living on the normal hetrosexual path here, it ain't easy and never has been purely down to f****'dibblers.
Here's the latest years growth rate;

Fact sheet - Latest statistics on the status of the AIDS epidemic. 20.9 million people were accessing antiretroviral therapy in June 2017.
36.7 million [30.8 million–42.9 million] people globally were living with HIV in 2016. 1.8 million [1.6 million–2.1 million] people became newly infected with HIV in 2016.
So, If You don't want HIV and an early death: "Don't stick it where it Don't belong and curb your lower emotions... simples!
And, Stop trying to convince the World that it's normal, because deep down like smoking you know it's not.
Grooming kids into the latest 'transgender sh*t by subtle means, the World will be legalising paedophilia next.... 8)
Ps: And I'm not homophobic just normal it's like calling me Anti-semitic because the way Israel treats the Palestinians.
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Who2 wrote: Having lived in a society for years that thinks every single ex-pat man in Egypt is Gay,
thanks guys you done us a real f****favour.
Trying living on the normal hetrosexual path here, it ain't easy and never has been purely down to f****'dibblers.
Blimey George your head is so stuck up your arse, opps watch out you dont catch anything 8)

Most Egyptians think that all humans (other than Egyptians) play the field regardless if they are a man, women, married, gay, straight, black, white etc, if you don't know that, you know **** all about Egypt, mind you I supposed if your ****** out of your head all the time, you probably wouldn't know. :ks
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The end of a great Radio 4 series just now. The last words of Lou Reed were "take me into the light"..... 8)
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Ps: Another subtle try to convince us all eh ?
"Most Egyptians think that all humans (other than Egyptians) play the field regardless if they are a man, women, married, gay, straight, black, white etc,
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From the youth of fame to awaiting death's knell... 8)
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