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Egypt army chief El-Sisi pushed towards presidential run

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A new wave of campaigns in Egypt call on army chief Abdel-Fattah El-Sisi to run in upcoming presidential elections

With the popularity of Egypt's armed forces chief General Abdel-Fattah El-Sisi at a peak, speculation is growing about whether the military leader could be the next president.


Talk shows and newspaper columns have, for the past month, been advocating the idea of the general running for president in order to fight the terrorist threat that they say the country is facing.

El-Sisi became a worldwide name in July when he announced that Islamist president Mohamed Morsi was being removed from power after mass protests against the unpopular elected leader.

El-Sisi stressed that the action was not a military coup and that the military was merely acting to safeguard the popular revolution. An interim president – Judge Adly Mansour – was swiftly appointed.

Recently, a number of campaigns have been launched calling on the general, who is also defence minister, to run for presidency in the elections slated for early next year.

The campaigns are called "Complete your favour," "A nation's demand" and "El-Sisi for president." Those behind them plan to gather signatures in order to press El-Sisi, who has said he has no desire to govern, to run.

The "El-Sisi for president" campaign claims to be the first campaign in Egypt calling for the popular general to become head of state. It also claims that it has printed two million petitions and set up 25 campaign offices in Europe and in Middle Eastern countries.

"We were the first campaign, founded on 27 July after the success of the army and General Abdel-Fattah El-Sisi to oust Mohamed Morsi and stand against the Muslim Brotherhood's international organisation," Samuel Ashy, the official spokesperson for the campaign, told Ahram Online.

On 26 July, mass protests took place across Egypt following a public call by El-Sisi for Egyptians to give the army a "mandate" to fight terrorism.

Ashy, who claims that "40 million" protesters demonstrated on 26 July, says that El-Sisi evokes former president Gamal Abdel-Nasser, an enduring popular figure.

"We believe that General Abdel-Fattah El-Sisi is the son of the late president Nasser. He has the same charisma and personality," said Ashy, who was formerly spokesman for a brief presidential campaign by Omar Suleiman in 2011.

His judgment is one that many Egyptians agree with, including Nasser's son.

"If General El-Sisi decides to run for the presidency, the whole Nasserite current in Egypt will endorse him because they have found the spirit of my father Gamal Abdel-Nasser in him," Abdel-Hakim Abdel-Nasser said.

"General El-Sisi will return the balance to Egypt. He has also got the experience and ability to manage the country as a military man, especially in these circumstances," Ashy said.

Egypt's Nationalist Party, an offshoot of Hosni Mubarak's now-disbanded National Democratic Party, has called on the three campaigns to unite their efforts.

The campaign efforts are not new; even before the ouster of Mohamed Morsi, there was support for a presidential run by El-Sisi.

Following the clashes between security forces and residents in Port Said in February after the announcement of verdicts in the Port Said football violence trial, some groups in Port Said began to gather notarised signatures mandating General El-Sisi and the armed forces to take over from Morsi. The campaign sooner expanded to other governorates, including Sharqiya and Menoufiya.

That campaign was soon overshadowed by the Rebel (Tamarod) campaign to gather signatures opposing Morsi and calling for early presidential elections.

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Amr Moussa, a former foreign minister under Hosni Mubarak and a former presidential candidate, told a leading newspaper that he thinks El-Sisi will win, should he run.

"The Egyptians want a strong president capable of taking decisions regardless of that decision's political effectiveness, as long as it does not contradict the constitution. The Egyptian mood now is angry, and scared of terrorism and chaos," said Moussa.

"General Abdel-Fattah El-Sisi is the most popular man at the moment. If he runs in the presidential elections he will win," he added.

"All the criticism surrounding electing military personalities relate to old experiences that contradicted democracy. But the president can be from a military background but elected in a democratic framework," said the former presidential candidate.

Ahmed Shafiq, a former military man who came second in last year's presidential elections, losing to Mohamed Morsi, seems to support a run by El-Sisi.

Shafiq stated earlier this week in an interview with Dream television channel that he would not run in the next presidential elections if El-Sisi was to run. "We all are going to endorse and support him if he runs in the elections," he said.

"Advanced nations benefit from army generals because they are being prepared well, as the military are the most knowledgeable people," Shafiq commented.

Last week, Pope Tawadros, the head of the Coptic Church, said that he had no objections to a presidential run by El-Sisi, though he preferred that the army chief wait until after this election cycle to run.

"I do not mind if General El-Sisi runs for the presidency, but it will be hard for him. It is better not run in the upcoming elections and run instead in the following elections," said the Pope, adding that Egypt needs "discipline" and that he does not mind a president with a military background.

Yasser El-Borhamai, a leading figure in Egypt's largest Salafist group the Salafist Call, also stated that he did not mind having the army chief as a president so long as "General El-Sisi resigns from his military post."

Mahmoud Badr, a co-founder of the Rebel campaign, also believes that General El-Sisi is a suitable candidate for the presidency in Egypt as long as the country is not stable.

"If it the situation is stable in Egypt, I will support a civilian president, but as long as things are not stable, I will support General El-Sisi if he runs," said Badr in public statements that caused controversy and drew criticism of the young revolutionary as an advocate for military rule.

Nevertheless, the Rebel campaign made it clear that Badr represented himself only and not the group.

Unlike Mahmoud Badr, Nawara Negm, a well-known activist who supports Morsi's ouster and the army, did not support the idea of El-Sisi running as a presidential candidate.

"El-Sisi swore three times that he does not look for power or to rule. He should stick to his promise," Negm told Ahram Online.

Negm said that she wondered why people who say that El-Sisi is Egypt's best defence minister since 1973 want him to leave that critical position to become president.

"Another issue is that his presidential bid may put the 30 June movement in a very bad position before the world. It will appear as if it was a coup and that he turned against Mohamed Morsi not because Morsi was bad but because he wanted to rule instead of him," Negm said.

Morsi was Egypt's first civilian president as his victory in the 2012 presidential elections put an end to a 60-year military monopoly on the office. His predecessors, who ruled the country since the 1952 Free Officers' coup – Mohamed Naguib, Abdel-Nasser, Anwar El-Sadat, and Mubarak – all came from within the army's ranks.

The general's view

Although there has been no direct reaction from General El-Sisi about the matter, observers believe that he does not want to run for president, according to his few public interviews and speeches.

Official military spokesperson Colonel Ahmed Mohamed Ali stated that El-Sisi has no intention to run for the presidential elections.

"General El-Sisi has denied several times his intention to run for presidential elections. These petition campaigns are popular feelings towards the general that we cannot prevent," said Ali in an interview with Al-Arabiya TV channel.

In his interview with The Washington Post last month, the general made it clear that he did not "aspire for authority" when asked about whether he had ambitions to run for presidency or not. However, in that interview he did not eliminate the possibility that he would run for the position.

Nevertheless, Al-Shorouk daily claimed two weeks ago that according to informed sources, El-Sisi has given orders that those campaigns calling on him to run for the presidency should be stopped. Al-Watan newspaper also claimed that according to informed sources the general had decided that he would not run in any presidential elections.

"Prophet Mohamed, peace be upon him, said 'do not seek to rule'. This is why we want General El-Sisi – because he does not seek power," said Ashy, when he was told about the reports.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/81472.aspx



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Lets hope so :br

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As far as I can read it is al Ahram which is running the speculation. Headline should read that the newspaper owned by the Sisi regime thinks that Sisi should be president. Really! How surprising!

The 25 overseas offices (referred to in the article) set up to campaign for Sisi to run for president. Who do you think is funding them. Who has the organizing ability to co-ordinate a single issue movement across 25 national jurisdictions and at short notice? These things don't happen spontaneously. This sounds more like talking it up than a news story. Where are they located, whats the telephone number.

Where does al Ahram dig up these slavering journalists? The usual sallies about proctologists are not relevant here because most believe what al Ahram prints.

A skeptical cast of mind seems alien. A few examples - 'Nasr an enduring popular figure'/'son of Nasr' - he nationalized the economy seized huge assets without compensation, drove minorities and their professional and business skills out of the country, lost the 1967 war and was 'removed' by his brother offices and died in obscurity. Do Egyptians know nothing of their history? There is more on Nasr. He kicked the US out, got into bed with the Russians, decided that are too dangerous for him, expels the Russians (Windsor Hotel) but can't make up with the US. Oh another disaster. Announces a complete political and economic union with Syria then changes his mind 18 months later. If he is a hero, then god help Egypt.

The Pope 'doesn't mind a president with a military background'. Has his beatitude been sleeping for the past 60 years of Egyptian government. Is he saying that Nasr, Sadat and Mubarak provided good government. Unfortunately for his flock he also appeared on TV backing Sisi. Backing one side against the other is a mugs game with real risks. A sensible leader of a minority should be trying to find a a middle way between the army and the brotherhood. His behavior will do little to help the security of the Copts.

Amr Moussa, that wrinkled old democrat, says that Sisi will be ok. Not a surprise because no-one thought Moussa was a democrat and he never blanched at anything Mubarak did either when he was part of his government or in his later apotheosis with the Arab League.

Shafiq, the presidential candidate with the very grubby past in the secret service, will support Sisi and he then comes out with a quote that would provoke laughter, even in China: "Advanced nations benefit from army generals because they are being prepared well, as the military are the most knowledgeable people," Shafiq commented. I don't know whether to vomit or laugh.

More delusional history. One young activist quoted above believes that Sisi was the best Defence Minister since 1973. You would think that a well educated middle class liberal urban activist would know better, or at least keep quiet. The evidence is all the other way. Not only have they not won any wars (any got bogged down in Yemen in a civil war) their losses have been bad. All specialist western commentators say that the armed forces are a shambles. Poor training, little maintenance, misuse of draftees. One commentator, Sprinborg, says that the armed forces are a danger to the country and to themselves. No matter what is now published about Sinai, they have never been able to control this insurgency/banditry over a period including the Mubarak years. Their navy is apparently a laughing stock. The young fool activist who thinks that Sisi was the best minister in 40 years also forgets that Sisi was minister for less than 12 months during which time the Sinai problem went from bad to worse. Ridiculous claim of 12 months achievement which, if true, would be evidence that the Morsi government was very effective in one important area. I'm sure he didn't mean to say that Morsi got one thing right. After you start telling lies you get caught up and start to contradict yourself. This chap is well caught up.

All figures go unquestioned in al Ahram. Ashy the organizer of the Sisi campaign in 25 countries and the printing of 2 million forms calling for Sisi to stand states (unchallenged) that 40 million demonstrators took to the streets to force Morsi out. Basic math, exclude the elderly and the young, exclude a percentage of women from conservative backgrounds, exclude the emergency and essential services and medicine would mean that everyone who could walk and talk was out on the day. Really! Liar, Liar, Pants on fire.

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Sisi is no fool, and Hafiz is correct about Al Ahram, I have been saying as much on here in the past.

But, for sure, it will be Sisi for president, however some one else will pull the 'strings', and I do not mean the Mubaraks.

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Seems to be quite a few huge laminated posters of Sisi hanging from various homes and on the streets of Luxor at the moment. (nothing wrote on them, just a portrait of him)

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No Comment regarding this post.........:cool:
Ps: I think he is really a great choice....really...no really......
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l too think he is a truly good choice, no l do, l really do, the very best choice, that is,..............................if there was a choice.

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