Is it possible to become a CO Creator?

[Aromagician]

There is a new concept that is being mooted as the next "step" in those interested in all things spiritual. That is of rather than simply worshiping the creator, or God, to become a "co-creator"

Someone who is able to tune in, and co-create their world and the Universe they live in.
Barbara Hubbards says this
"Hubbard: I mean there is a major shift in the relationship between humans and God, from the passive creature child to the active participant in the process of creation. We are the “co” and the Creator is the “creator.” We are the first generation to be conscious of evolution, and responsible for guiding our evolution on a planetary scale. Conscious evolution occurs on three levels. The first level is a deeper intuitive knowing of the pattern -- attunement, guidance to the process of creation, both personally and for our species. The second way is through science and technology. We’re learning how nature works. We can build new life forms. We can clone embryos. We can build new worlds in space. We can change bodies. We can create new organisms. This is literally physical co-creation. It has now happened. The third way is socially. We must become co-creators because we’re affecting our social environment by everything we do -- how many babies we have, what kind of cars we drive, how we handle our waste. We have become co-creators with nature and nature’s God in handling our social as well as our physical environment.
Co-creation occurs because we are created in the image of God and now is the time when the Godlike powers are being given to the human race. If we misuse those powers we will go through an Armageddon-type scenario because self-centered humanity cannot inherit these full powers of creation. They are too destructive. All throughout history there have been individuals who have shifted from the separated self to the unified self, but now, because of the power, there has to be a much larger number of people making that shift rapidly. And that’s why I call it the Age of Co-creation."
http://www.som.org/3library/interviews/hubbard.htm

So what do you think? Will we inherit Godly powers? Some say the Ancient Egyptians had Godly powers or at least the Pharoahs and their families did. Have we digressed since that time, rather than progressed?

[A-Four]

As one old friend of this site disappears, another re-enters,...........Welcome back.

I am so pleased we have something to get our teeth into, rather than the crap that seems to be just going around and around in a circle, a bit like God really.

Hope to come back to your above statement this evening, when I get more time.

Pity we don't get the old guard on here any more, but I have an idea why.

P.S. - Watch out these days on here you get 'likes', but don't worry about that, its much of a 'closed shop', as you will see.

[Aromagician]

Hi Afour nice to hear from you,
Yes I thought I could pop in and make a few comments, but couldnt see anything to comment on.
I can understand with all the turmoil in Egypt, the loftier subjects are probably turned aside.

Didnt see many familiar avatars, but have been away a while, selling our house, looking for new one, moving etc...
now am snatching some spare time to have a bit of a chin wag on here and see what comes out of the mix

[A-Four]

Now that it has just been announced, wondering here, which do you live on,

Te Ika-a-Maui...........The Fish of Maui.

or

Te Waipounamu..... The Waters of Green Stone.



Both fantastic names.

[Who2]

A wise man once said to me "To think it is to Create, for a Y's man"
Amongst the 60's criminal fraternity it was called 'funking it, you create it first and just follow through.
Some crims were known for their 'lucky streak or 'he's good at 'funking it.....
'I'm a good 'funker.....

[Aromagician]

Te ika a maui actually. I wonder if it rose from the ocean like the island off pakustan recently.

Now some storues and prophecies talk about a time when it will be like heaven on earth.

Perhaps this means it will be possible to live on earth as if one was in heaven. I.e with all the gifts or fruits of your labour here and now. Not after you have died. Your actions reaping as you go along.

[A-Four]

It may seem strange, but this very evening I watched a program on BBC TV, one and a half hours long, about decay. How over a set period of eight week a person, took you on a journey through a kitchen sealed off from the open world where such things as beef, pork, chicken, fish and other items such as fresh fruit, etc were all left to see what would happen.

The presenter of this program took the viewer through the different stages of decay, and how different forms of the average small creatures, mainly flies and their larver, quickly disposed of the meat, including the decaying fruit that appeared to make them seem drunk, as a result of the acidity, so we are told. Because as I have said, there area was sealed there was no more food for the flies, therefore no more maggots could be produced, all the flies were dead, and the earlier most putrid smell had disappeared. In fact it was found that most of the dead flies were discovered within a half bottle of wine, obviously a final, but most dangerous place to gain food in a desperate attempt to stay alive.

We now learn that simple beetles take over, as though this is a natural process, and they seemed to create from out of the remain a sort of rich compost, and although we were not told earlier in the program, the presenter announced that he had placed simple flower seeds around the area, and now suddenly thiese seeds begun to grow.

I now think to myself, at what point did God come through the door, all those billions of years ago,.......or was it all the Higgs boson after all?

[Aromagician]

Ah but that is simply life and decay. What about the manifestation and creation of events and circumstances within those cycles.

The energy that causes a certain person to come into a persons life at a certain time? the strands of destiny, or the weaving of the fates as described in many legends. Did some peoples such as described in the poem the Lady of Shallot have the power to weave the destinies of others?

Is that the power of creation? Not just life and death but the creation and manifestation of energies.

Why else do people pray to the Gods for boons or for them to intervene in a life situation to change it. What if we could also have the power to intervene in peoples destinies? Not just our own?

[Dusak]

I'm not a religious person so tend to leave any thoughts of creation to science and nature. Each and every one of us are creators as we past from birth to death. You mention Higgs A-four. Although I firmly believe in the betterment's that science can deliver to us, I think in the case of Higgs discovery we may just well be playing 'God'. To discover the process that could possibility reveal the unraveling of the bond that crates mass is, I think, leading to what could be a devastating discovery in the long term. Did they [the scientists] not recently discover how to create a mini black hole? I think that sometimes its a dangerous path that we walk. We already control peoples destiny, as we have for countless years. Its called war.

[Aromagician]

Yes Dusak I agree
I believe that we are all connected in some way by energy. As the Egyptians believed and did many cultures, the stars were also linked with the Gods and the divine energy manifested on earth. If scientists were to create a celestial being, or a black hole etc, what energy would they be bringing forth into the universe? Would they be opening gateways to other dimensions on an energy level without even being conscious of what they are doing?

Or do they in fact know exactly what they are doing. It is after all physicists and the like that are strong supporters of the string theory, or the one where there is 11 parallel dimensions to this one.

What are they doing?

I am talking more perhaps of using ones divinely bestowed abilities to create change or events in the world. Some religions such as some in India, talk of a state where everything exists, deep inside oneself, where you can enter and see the past the future and all that is. A place where interaction and perhaps co-creation is possible.

[Aromagician]

Now if you were to gain the powers and abilities if a cocreator what would this mean to your life?
Would you be able to see all possibilities in a given situation and choose the most beneficial?
Would you intervene in circumstances that seemed unjust, just as many pray to god for?

Would you be swayed by love, money, power?

[Aromagician]

I watched Steven Hawkings documentary on Aliens, and the possibility of their existence in the Universe. He is of the opinion it has to be a fact as there are too many planets and stars and galaxies for there not to be. His theory is that if they became so advanced they would most likely use up all the resources on their planet, and be forced to build large floating ships to house everyone, become nomads roaming the galaxy looking for planets to mine all their resources, so that they could continue to live.

which makes the Sumerian tale of the Annunaki seem a little more likely doesnt it? It is assumed by many that they came to Earth to mine for materials and genetically made humans by mixing dna with earth/ mud or should we say primordial ooze.

Science says we came from the mud, as the correct structures collided together to create the first animal. But what if it was genetically engineered instead?

Of course the story of Annunaki says that then the human became too troublesome and so they decided to annihilate by flood, but Enlil decided to save some .

It seems the problem with co-creation, or creation is one then is responsible for the result of what has been created.