Immortal Egypt

[Brian Yare]

A series of 4 new documentaries featuring Joann Fletcher will be shown on BBC2, starting on Monday 4th January at 9pm GMT or 11pm Egyptian time.

[A-Four]

Having watched this dear lady's first episode, she seems to be building up to the 18 th Dynasty. She gives a great deal of interest into cattle. Perhaps here she is trying to enforce the importance of such animals into and beyond the 18th dynasty. As your average farmer will be aware the wealth of cattle depends on the amount of land you own as pastoral that is available to create such a wealth of such a heard.

As we can detect from the 12th to the 18th dynasty land from Nubia to Asswan and beyond unto Luxor was changing from arable to desert very quickly. The ancient perished forests in the north bare witness to this fact today. This could quite easily account for Nubian forces moved North to find suitable arable land for its precious herds.

I suspect that during the reign of Amenophis lll, a great drought occurred that changed the whole landscape of the West Bank in Luxor from that what we see today. Remember we should see as the so called Mortuary Temple of Hatchepsuit, was in fact 'Hatchepsuit's beautiful garden to Amoun Ra', and certainly not as it is regarded to date.

I suspect that during the reign of Amenophis lll, an earthquake occurred that partially destroyed his great mortuary temple, then he produced a future pharaoh that was certainly not of the image of the gods, all this combined, is there any wonder he had little or no faith in the gods, as the various statues of Sekhmet, the goddess of 'the enraged goddess of Ra' be the protectorate of the Pharaoh.

Hopefully we shall hear more of this from Mss Fletcher. One thing is for sure, we shall learn of this dear lady's new attitude towards Tutankhamun, ........ I wonder where she got that from.

[Major Thom]

It starts here the day after, (24 Hour delay) on the OSN channels.

[newcastle]

Has Joann started to weep yet?

She usually does at some point. Yuk!

[Zooropa]

Has Joann started to weep yet?

She usually does at some point. Yuk!

Im not sure, I do know im quite often close to tears when she comes onto my screen.

[newcastle]

My TV screen can't cope with her hair and her accent is best tolerated via the mute button on my remote.

I'm not a fan.

Spoiler

You guessed?

[Who2]

And she is still promoting that daft theory that it was a tomb, some Egyptologist ha!...

[Zooropa]

Just watched it.

Despite the bird from Barnsley, I did enjoy it.

[A-Four]

The real problem I have with this lady, is when we see her on T.V., she perhaps don't realise, but her expression and excitement gives the impression that it is the first time she has ever entered where ever it is. To keep the full attention of the audience, one must show that you have the competence and ability to be able to teach the subject in question.

That brings me to another point, from what I understand this series intends to cover the whole period of the Egyptian ancient civilisation,.......well I have yet to come across any Egyptologist who is competent to teach anyone this whole era.

[Zooropa]

My problem with her is that whenever she does a program you get the impression its about her and her "love" of all things Egyptian and a little bit about Egypt/Egyptian history thrown in.

[Brian Yare]

At the target audience level, anyone with a basic degree in Egyptology and suitable teaching skills could teach the full range of Egyptology from the stone age through to the Roman era at least. Theses series are not aimed at specialists.

[A-Four]

At the target audience level, anyone with a basic degree in Egyptology and suitable teaching skills could teach the full range of Egyptology from the stone age through to the Roman era at least.

...........but not on the internationally respected B.B.C.

As for your above statement, are you for real Brian. One person who is an expert of this whole era ?

[A-Four]

. Theses series are not aimed at specialists.

True, they are there to entertain and to educate at the same time though.

[Robbo70]

How deep do you want them to educate though? The program is aimed at your normal average interested person who would like to see bits of Egypt and a bit of background on those bits. That is meant to pique their interest to get them on a plane and go see for themselves. I have seen so many of you guys who have a much deeper knowledge and interest/understanding slay the program and the woman, which is fine, but the program isn't aimed at you and your indepth understanding of which ever dynasty turns you on. Its aimed at Joe Bloggs. The tw@t in the hat got you all wound up too, but he was enthusiastic and told a good tale which made people want to see it all for themselves. He may be a first class tosser to people in the know, but he did a great job selling the concept to those not in the know.

[Who2]

The Prat in the Hat was a thief, stealing from everybody, no more no less and no Class...

[Brian Yare]

The Prat in the Hat was a thief, stealing from everybody, no more no less and no Class...

Much as I never liked him, you need to prove or withdraw your serious allegations.

[A-Four]

How deep do you want them to educate though?.

Let me give you an example here Robbo.

If deep into the future a T.V. program did an international program on English history, the program presenter showd us a Roman villa, then in the next shot we see the Shard in London, we would say, Wow, did they develop fast. We see Mss Fletcher one moment inside the Great Pyramid, then suddenly she picks up her story to the New Kingdom era, a 1500 year difference, leaving the viewer perhaps thinking the 18th Dynasty.

The series is in four parts, it is to entertain, but to educate also, we have seen only the first, perhaps we should judge it as a whole, later.

[Frater0082]

I thought the video was quite nice and can't wait for the next one.

She sure spent some time in Abydos( it home to see that) its such a mystical place.

[Frater0082]

Having watched this dear lady's first episode, she seems to be building up to the 18 th Dynasty. She gives a great deal of interest into cattle. Perhaps here she is trying to enforce the importance of such animals into and beyond the 18th dynasty. As your average farmer will be aware the wealth of cattle depends on the amount of land you own as pastoral that is available to create such a wealth of such a heard.

As we can detect from the 12th to the 18th dynasty land from Nubia to Asswan and beyond unto Luxor was changing from arable to desert very quickly. The ancient perished forests in the north bare witness to this fact today. This could quite easily account for Nubian forces moved North to find suitable arable land for its precious herds.

I suspect that during the reign of Amenophis lll, a great drought occurred that changed the whole landscape of the West Bank in Luxor from that what we see today. Remember we should see as the so called Mortuary Temple of Hatchepsuit, was in fact 'Hatchepsuit's beautiful garden to Amoun Ra', and certainly not as it is regarded to date.

I suspect that during the reign of Amenophis lll, an earthquake occurred that partially destroyed his great mortuary temple, then he produced a future pharaoh that was certainly not of the image of the gods, all this combined, is there any wonder he had little or no faith in the gods, as the various statues of Sekhmet, the goddess of 'the enraged goddess of Ra' be the protectorate of the Pharaoh.

Hopefully we shall hear more of this from Mss Fletcher. One thing is for sure, we shall learn of this dear lady's new attitude towards Tutankhamun, ........ I wonder where she got that from.

Me too i almost feel like she's searching for something but that's just me.

I wonder how she feels about the whole Nefertiti fiasco going on?

[Aromagician]

What Nefertiti fiasco ? She was the one she wrote the book about Nefertiti? I have not been paying attention to Egyptian things lately and need an update !


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