Kemet/Egypt

[Frater0082]

In recent years I go bashed for my beliefs about the ancient Egyptians. I had no comeback what so ever to acclaimed experts in this field until i had to dig deeper in research and realized something.

I realized that everything before Alexander the Great conquered Egypt was Kemet. They are not Egyptian because Egypt came after the fall of Kemet so people to say that the Pharoahs of old(Before Alexander the Great) were Ancient Egyptian is false they were Kemet. The pryamids and old temples have been adapted to the modern Egyptian society but it doesn't naturally belong to them, it belonged to the Kemets.

What i'm trying to say Egypt is literally two lands. It holds history of the Kemets and the Modern-day Egyptians. facsinating isn't it.

[John Landon]

It's a bit of an inconvenient truth given the white man's past regarding the adoption of Slavery, to realise that the back man was indeed far more intelligent back then that the white man ever has been.

Those huge granite statues could just have easily been made out of rose Granite, but they chose Black. Despite many noses being cut off, the nose shape is most certainly not that of any white man.

Another example of the establishment getting it wrong. Established mentality where parrots rule and anyone who speaks differently to the parrots is ridiculed.



Now, regarding the true Ancients, they did not speak literally, infact, the powers of speech were somewhat limited and that must have confused the Greeks quite a bit.

[newcastle]

Who are the "true ancients" supposed to be?

I thought the theory that the ancient Egyptians (i.e. pre Greek) had any caucasian element was abandoned long ago. Mainline orthodoxy gives them an African heritage...with some middle eastern additions later. BTW...slavery is as old as humanity and was practiced by old civilsations long before it was "adopted" by the white man. It is still prevalent in some non-white countries.

Comparing "intelligence" ...black versus white.... is rather pointless. The BCE Egyptians were clearly a more advanced civilisation at the time than, say, Euopeans but the latter have now overtaken them.

As for black statues.....there were many more in sandstone. I wouldn't draw any inferences from the materials used.

, the powers of speech were somewhat limited

....what on earth is that supposed to mean?

[Horus]

Did anyone of recent times believe that the ancient Egyptians were anything other than indigenous to the region? There has always been a mixing of races particularly in Upper Egypt where the Nubian would meet with their more Northerly Arabic neighbours who were often a blend of various invaders who had left some ethnic input in their gene pool. As to them all having a black countenance and features, then it is obvious that you have never gazed upon the features of certain Egyptian mummies such as Ramses II, Ramses III, Siptah, and the Tuthmosis dynasty to name but a few to see they are not black African (as in Nubian) although a dark skin would be the order of the day. That is not to say there were not black Pharaohs, one that springs to mind was Taharqa who ruled in 690 BC, an era when most of the Pharaohs were Nubians, after Nubia conquered Egypt for a period of about 150 years. His solitary column can be seen as you enter the first courtyard at Karnak Temple, his features are clearly Nubian as depicted in his statues which are made from various materials including Aswan Rose Granite, Sandstone, Basalt and Green Porphyry to name but a few.

[newcastle]

The Victorian egyptologists had a problem accepting that the advanced civilisation of the ancient Egyptians could have emanated from "blacks"....but I think this racial prejudice was debunked many decades ago.

Maybe. on consideration, John Landon (a.k.a. Bullet Magnet) is alluding, with some of his remarks, to a pre-dynastic advanced civilisation. '

Each to their own

[Frater0082]

The Victorian egyptologists had a problem accepting that the advanced civilisation of the ancient Egyptians could have emanated from "blacks"....but I think this racial prejudice was debunked many decades ago.

Maybe. on consideration, John Landon (a.k.a. Bullet Magnet) is alluding, with some of his remarks, to a pre-dynastic advanced civilisation. '

Each to their own

Oh my god Bullet Magnet is back. Yees I was getting lonEly here.

[John Landon]

From time to time Frater, but certainly not with the previous frequency.
Plus I have another African jaunt beginning early next week, Insh a Allah. The Red city.

I think both you and I know that things in the Black Land are not as they have been recorded in History, but then again, who writes history ?
Did you know the pre historic Greeks got their backsides well and truly whipped when they went to war with a certain people. Oddly enough they themselves decided to leave that bit out of the records, hence pre-history.

Speak soon ?

[Frater0082]

From time to time Frater, but certainly not with the previous frequency.
Plus I have another African jaunt beginning early next week, Insh a Allah. The Red city.

I think both you and I know that things in the Black Land are not as they have been recorded in History, but then again, who writes history ?
Did you know the pre historic Greeks got their backsides well and truly whipped when they went to war with a certain people. Oddly enough they themselves decided to leave that bit out of the records, hence pre-history.

Speak soon ?

Slavery existed since the beginning of time.

[John Landon]

Quote: Slavery existed since the beginning of time.

Are we back with the Anunnaki and Sitchin's theory about humans being created to mine monatomic gold, having first sought permission from the original inhabitant's of this planet Frater ?

That's going to be a tricky one to get past this lot...


Of course, One sometimes has to learn where to take things literally and where to decipher the metaphors, like in the Bible for example.

That's the trouble with life on Earth, people take things too literally and the next thing you know, everyone is fighting like cat and dog !

[Horus]

Another thread that needs to stay on topic, if people wish to speculate on the Annunaki or other theories please post in 'Myths magic and spirituality' this section is 'History and Archaeology'

[Frater0082]

This is why I don't like to posts here anymore too many arrogant people who are so quick to dismantle you and dismiss you. No I never read any of Sitchin's books. My knowledge of them is very mysterious.

Our arrogance is why we are so blind and see straight. But let me atop because it's not like I'm going to get anything out of this but more arrogance.

[Horus]

Frater, the only person being arrogant is yourself if you think it is OK to post some theory that you may have, then automatically expect everyone else to agree with it without question. By all means put forward your theories and or beliefs (in the correct section) but be prepared for others to disagree with you, you have to be prepared to convince others of what you are saying, it is no use just claiming to have some mysterious knowledge or some past experiences and then expect everyone to just agree with you.

[Frater0082]

Frater, the only person being arrogant is yourself if you think it is OK to post some theory that you may have, then automatically expect everyone else to agree with it without question. By all means put forward your theories and or beliefs (in the correct section) but be prepared for others to disagree with you, you have to be prepared to convince others of what you are saying, it is no use just claiming to have some mysterious knowledge or some past experiences and then expect everyone to just agree with you.

True, but there is a way how you handle things and you don't shame people.

I have not disrespected no one on this forum No one. I don't tolerate disrespect and I understand people have opinions and don't sit here and ridicule something that you just understand. And another thing I don't bully people I don't like bullying at all.

Did you not see me posts the Annunaki topic in the Myths and Spirituality section or are you blind?

Before you came along DJKeefy didn't have a problem with my posts. I never heard a peap from him or her. This topic is about Kemet/Egypt not in regards to something else. Read. but apparently you still want to ridicule me about me having past life experiences. Something you have no knowledge of. Something you don't understand .

But you're a psychologist, Egyptology and a counselor at once.

Again just because you don't understand something doesn't mean you can dismiss it. I'm trying to get people think THINK not to believe. If you don't believe thend ok. But bully me.

The topic was Kemet/Egypt not something else. One things I'm not is blinded by my own ego and bias. I'm not arrogant but I will not be disrespected.