In prison in Egypt, it’s normal to be stripped and beaten

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In prison in Egypt, it’s normal to be stripped and beaten

Post by DJKeefy » Fri Sep 02, 2016 3:16 pm

In prison in Egypt, it’s normal to be stripped, beaten, witness torture.

I was arrested when I was caught up in a protest while on holiday in Egypt in 2013. I fear the trial that could end my life, and that I’ll never see Ireland again.


There are two types of abuse in prison in Egypt: mental and physical. Verbal abuse doesn’t even count. If I had to choose, I would always choose the physical abuse – anything mental is 100 times worse.

This is a choice that has become familiar since I was arrested while on holiday in Egypt in 2013. My three older sisters and I, all Irish citizens, were caught up in a protest in Cairo. I was 17 at the time, and about to start my final year of school. My sisters were released on bail, but I, along with 493 other people, was charged with attending an illegal protest and have been incarcerated ever since, waiting for a mass trial, and possibly facing the death penalty.

Each time you are transferred to a new prison, there is something called “the party”. They show you who’s boss. In most cases it’s beatings, but in one, we were stripped, told to lie down facing the ground with our arms behind our back, and they started to jump on our backs, from one prisoner to the next.

It’s normal to be cursed, stripped naked, beaten with a bar, or put in solitary confinement or the “tank” (a pitch-black 3.5m x 5.5m cell). They might also torture another prisoner in front of you. Of course you never forget. Ever.

After a prison “inspection”, you might go back to your cell and find things missing. If your family visits and you get something from them that the guards like, you may as well forget it.

Once, coming back from a hearing in my mass trial, I was hit with the back of an AK47 and asked where I was from. The officer put his AK47 to my chest and said: “I wish I could take you out, you ******* Irish. But I can’t.”

During a recent hunger strike, I was left to die. I was out. My fellow prisoners, with whom I share a cell, banged on the door for help – they were told: “When he dies, knock.” That is a really small fraction of what happens and has happened to me.

Why have they abused me? They give two reasons. First, they say they can’t control the prisoners unless they show them who is in charge every now and then. They say the police and army were the ones who sacrificed their lives for Egypt so they should rule it. Nobody is allowed to object.

The capacity of the prison is 2,000. It currently holds more than 6,000 prisoners. Most cells have at least 30 people in them and they are all one size, 3.5m x 5.5m. There is no hygiene whatsoever. The bucket you get food in is the bucket they take the garbage in. It is prisoners who cook: they take a leak and spit in the food for laughs.

My cell door has “extremely dangerous” written on it because of a mix-up of prison papers, so I’m currently isolated. A lack of sun has caused me many skin diseases, weak bones, weak eyes, and constant pain.

I tend to keep good relationships with guards, officers, staff and prisoners. I like to leave a good memory, even with the guards who beat me. Some guards don’t talk, just pose. But I’m very well known – I have moved a lot, both between and within prisons, and I try my best to leave a good impression. When history mentions me I want to be known for all the good memories I left behind.

In my “free” time, I do whatever is in my ability to do. I learn, draw, sing, pray, laugh, cry, make future plans. Thinking is the key to prison. It gives you partial freedom. You think so much you can’t sleep. Most of my thinking is about my family. I have remembered memories that were long forgotten since my childhood (not that I’m so old). Every day I think of what it’s going to be like seeing everyone at the airport. Embarrassing for me if no one turns up …

We have not moved one step forward in the mass trial. The lawyers keep telling the judge that we should be released. He was about to do what the four other past judges did and resign, but homeland security told him no one else will try the case, so he held it for trial of sentence. It is a disgrace to its name – a “fair trial”. It is not a trial whatsoever – it breaks every law. I should be released. I can’t speak to the judge; he can’t ask me any questions. I can’t speak to my lawyer; my lawyer can’t speak to me. My family are constantly refused entry to the court. I totally object to it. I never think of getting out and taking revenge – I think of leaving and searching for help, of helping others.

Ireland – I miss everything about Ireland. Home, family, friends, the people, school, going out, laughing, love, hiking, swimming, the kindness. I miss going out to the sights, seeing Ireland and Irish nature. I miss town and the noise of the city and how at 9pm it shuts and no one is in the street. I miss the fresh air. TV. Cinema. Fishing. Go-karting. Shopping. Running for the Dublin bus. Eating at Chippers. Looking far away – the furthest I have seen in over 1,000 days is less than half a kilometre. I miss my bed and my pillows. I miss the Cliffs of Moher. The parks. I miss eating popcorn and cookies. I could go on for ever.

I’m really sad about not seeing my dad, who is old and ill, and my beautiful kind sisters. Valuable days that can’t be brought back. Family gatherings. All the kids growing up. Finishing school. Losing my friends due to no contact. I miss soccer. I miss horse riding. MMA. I wish I could run.

I never ever imagined I would go to prison. I was shocked even when they kept me for four days. It was finally after six months and two judges that I found out they weren’t joking.

Acquitted or sentenced, my case isn’t over. But I do hope I don’t get sentenced. I want to go home.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ture-egypt


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Re: In prison in Egypt, it’s normal to be stripped and beate

Post by Who2 » Fri Sep 02, 2016 5:51 pm

Home to Long Kesh ?
Pretty strange name for an Irishman, and pretty stupid to write this if he hasn't been sentenced yet.
Dubios beyond belief.... 8)
Ps: Very little about him on Reprieves' web-site and if he was on holiday what the hell was he doing at a rally, with his sisters ? 'Agitprop?
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Re: In prison in Egypt, it’s normal to be stripped and beate

Post by Dusak » Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:42 am

Sounds like a load of old b****cks to me. When I first started to read it, it read as if Keefy was talking about himself as there was no heading introduction.. :lol:
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Re: In prison in Egypt, it’s normal to be stripped and beate

Post by DJKeefy » Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:34 pm

Dusak wrote:Sounds like a load of old b****cks to me. When I first started to read it, it read as if Keefy was talking about himself as there was no heading introduction.. :lol:
:roll: :roll: :roll: Im not into S&M Dusak 8)

BTW the story is true, there is lots of coverage of the story in the news

heres a few from the last year

http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/ibrahim ... 9-Apr2015/

http://www.thejournal.ie/ibrahim-halawa ... 5-Jun2016/

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/12/i ... 05316.html
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Re: In prison in Egypt, it’s normal to be stripped and beate

Post by Major Thom » Sat Sep 03, 2016 11:45 pm

More stories and facts getting around the World, but that is what the Media is about.

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Re: In prison in Egypt, it’s normal to be stripped and beaten

Post by Adamantium » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:15 pm

Beatings are common place when arrested. Atheists (blaspheners), activists, gays, all dragged in. Either punched or beaten with sticks. 'In a Time of Torture there is story after story of what the LGBTQ community have to endure. Entrapment- a simple swipe of an app could really be a policeman. They arrest them even though they had not even done anything. They are charged with intent to have sexual relations. Atheists also dare not express their ideas. As this post illustrates, opposition to the regime means jail time waiting and waiting for a trial. Children fair no better.

This is the moral dilemma I face. I love Egypt, however I have not returned for some time. Initially for work committements, now when reading these reports and given the Military own everything of any worth, the airfair alone goes to the regime if I travel via Egyptair which I love doing. The answer there is simole. Find another airline. Any suggestions? Rather than stay in a state owned hotel, an apartment. Even though the solutions are simple, it is not easy to deny the tyrany.

Imprisoning a 17yr old national is bad enough , but a tourist, it just goes to prove some of the other stories I have learned of to be warnings to what could happen whenblines are crossed. With this government that is a very thin line.

Ireland is beautiful. Wonderful landscapes and sights. Warm people, mostly. Yummy Wheaten and soda bread topped with plum or rhubarb jam. Long stretching beaches overlooking the Atlantic. Anywhere is missable when contained in an Egyptian jail cut off from sanity and hope. One report puts across the armies reason for abusing and subduing captives. Not only to control but because they are afraid. They are afraid of the people.

One part of the report tells of the Police bringing in a party of young boys to observe torture letting them see what is in store for them if they cross the line.

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Re: In prison in Egypt, it’s normal to be stripped and beaten

Post by Major Thom » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:27 pm

Just goes to show how lucky a most of us are to live in a real Country with values and a modern outlook.

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Re: In prison in Egypt, it’s normal to be stripped and beaten

Post by Who2 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:45 pm

A lot of people have read this post but not many comments, straange...!

I got beaten by an inspector once he hit me with his leather 'swagger stick. 'prat..
I also got beaten up by the CID but never stripped ttf.... 8)

Ps: It was probably angst coppers like you that 'duffed me up MT, charging around on your Velocettes....
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Re: In prison in Egypt, it’s normal to be stripped and beaten

Post by newcastle » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:01 pm

Who2 wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:45 pm
A lot of people have read this post but not many comments, straange...!

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Probably because few have had your experience as a guest of her majesty......or such frequent run- ins with the forces of law and order. :P

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Re: In prison in Egypt, it’s normal to be stripped and beaten

Post by Who2 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:57 pm

Probably because few have had your experience as a guest of her majesty......or such frequent run- ins with the forces of law and order. :P
Well it keeps one on their toes, does it not ?....... 8)

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Re: In prison in Egypt, it’s normal to be stripped and beaten

Post by crewmeal » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:36 am

If this is the same guy you're referring to then it looks like a happy ending.


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