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Re: UK General Election
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:44 pm
by Zooropa
I have no problem with you or any other Remoaner complaining about the result, only those who want to rerun the referendum.
Ive been on the wrong end of plenty of election results, it didnt stop me complaining nor should it.
But i never argued the result wasnt valid and that id been misled or lied to and that it should be redone.
All Remoaners were so confident of victory they all felt magnanimous enough to talk about being gracious to us Leavers in defeat and wanting to unite the nation together so that we could all move forward as one.
But because they lost that seems to have gone out of the window along with their rattle, they couldnt be more divisive.
Re: UK General Election
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:47 pm
by Zooropa
newcastle wrote:Zooropa wrote:Im not sure June 8th gives us enough time to construct all the
20 foot by 20 foot ballot papers needed to fit all the info on so that we avoid another catastrophe ala Brexit when we voted for something "that wasnt on the ballot paper"
The word you're looking for is "Manifesto".
A document setting out the governments proposed policies etc....from which they depart at their peril.
The Referendum was preceded by documents from both camps which would disgrace the inside of a Christmas cracker....worthy prognostications based on...well....dodgy forecasts and much navel-gazing.
This was not a general election, it was not fought by political parties.
It was based on one question leave or remain.
End of.
My dear Newcastle, you have been thrashed on this subject so many times by Horus and myself that as a gentleman and someone who likes you i cant continue to debate you on this element of the argument anymore.
You need taking out of the ring on this for your own good.
Re: UK General Election
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:53 pm
by newcastle
Bombay wrote:She has misjudged as did Cameron, Corbin will win by a landslide this time because it will be a second referendum not party politics like the last time. Most Labour seats are safe seats so they need to gain less than May does for a strong mandate.
Who would have thought Trump for President and now Corbin for Prime Minister!
Delicious though that would be, I fear Jeremy is viewed as too much of a chump to pull it off.
But..as they say....six weeks is a long time in politics.
Does Theresa have a private email we can hack? Has Boris a bevy of mistresses in Moscow?
Thought not
Re: UK General Election
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:55 pm
by Zooropa
In any case, i must withdraw for now, the greatest game in the history of Leicester City Football Club is on the horizon and i have to go through my pre match preparations.
Re: UK General Election
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:59 pm
by newcastle
Zooropa wrote:newcastle wrote:Zooropa wrote:Im not sure June 8th gives us enough time to construct all the
20 foot by 20 foot ballot papers needed to fit all the info on so that we avoid another catastrophe ala Brexit when we voted for something "that wasnt on the ballot paper"
The word you're looking for is "Manifesto".
A document setting out the governments proposed policies etc....from which they depart at their peril.
The Referendum was preceded by documents from both camps which would disgrace the inside of a Christmas cracker....worthy prognostications based on...well....dodgy forecasts and much navel-gazing.
This was not a general election, it was not fought by political parties.
It was based on one question leave or remain.
End of.
My dear Newcastle, you have been thrashed on this subject so many times by Horus and myself that as a gentleman and someone who likes you i cant continue to debate you on this element of the argument anymore.
You need taking out of the ring on this for your own good.
And the ambiguity of "leave or remain" has been the cause of all the arguments since last June!
My dear Newcastle, you have been thrashed on this subject so many times by Horus and myself
Mmmmm...being savaged by dead sheep would worry me more
Re: UK General Election
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:08 pm
by Zooropa
Well on this subject i fear the Sheep would do just that.
Re: UK General Election
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:08 pm
by Horus
Bombay wrote:She has misjudged as did Cameron, Corbin will win by a landslide this time because it will be a second referendum not party politics like the last time. Most Labour seats are safe seats so they need to gain less than May does for a strong mandate.
Who would have thought Trump for President and now Corbin for Prime Minister!
Bombay, if you are so sure about Corbin how about a little wager? if you win I will pay double for every meal I have in your restaurant, if you lose I eat for free?
Re: UK General Election
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:11 pm
by Zooropa
Horus wrote:Bombay wrote:She has misjudged as did Cameron, Corbin will win by a landslide this time because it will be a second referendum not party politics like the last time. Most Labour seats are safe seats so they need to gain less than May does for a strong mandate.
Who would have thought Trump for President and now Corbin for Prime Minister!
Bombay, if you are so sure about Corbin how about a little wager? if you win I will pay double for every meal I have in your restaurant, if you lose I eat for free?
Il have a piece of that action!
Re: UK General Election
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:14 pm
by newcastle
Zooropa wrote:In any case, i must withdraw for now, the greatest game in the history of Leicester City Football Club is on the horizon and i have to go through my pre match preparations.
I bet you look delightful in a tutu, waving pompoms
Re: UK General Election
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:29 pm
by newcastle
Zooropa wrote:Horus wrote:Bombay wrote:She has misjudged as did Cameron, Corbin will win by a landslide this time because it will be a second referendum not party politics like the last time. Most Labour seats are safe seats so they need to gain less than May does for a strong mandate.
Who would have thought Trump for President and now Corbin for Prime Minister!
Bombay, if you are so sure about Corbin how about a little wager? if you win I will pay double for every meal I have in your restaurant, if you lose I eat for free?
Il have a piece of that action!
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Typical Brexiteers....always wanting everything for nothing
Re: UK General Election
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:30 pm
by Zooropa
Yep - anyone skilled in negotiation knows that, that is the standard starting point.
Re: UK General Election
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:36 pm
by Bombay
Horus wrote:Bombay wrote:She has misjudged as did Cameron, Corbin will win by a landslide this time because it will be a second referendum not party politics like the last time. Most Labour seats are safe seats so they need to gain less than May does for a strong mandate.
Who would have thought Trump for President and now Corbin for Prime Minister!
Bombay, if you are so sure about Corbin how about a little wager? if you win I will pay double for every meal I have in your restaurant, if you lose I eat for free?
No, I would feel guilty taking your money.
Re: UK General Election
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:37 pm
by Zooropa
Bombay wrote:Horus wrote:Bombay wrote:She has misjudged as did Cameron, Corbin will win by a landslide this time because it will be a second referendum not party politics like the last time. Most Labour seats are safe seats so they need to gain less than May does for a strong mandate.
Who would have thought Trump for President and now Corbin for Prime Minister!
Bombay, if you are so sure about Corbin how about a little wager? if you win I will pay double for every meal I have in your restaurant, if you lose I eat for free?
No, I would feel guilty taking your money.
No, no, really, a bet is a bet, no need to feel guilty!
Re: UK General Election
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:23 pm
by newcastle
Typical Brexiteers....always wanting everything for nothing
Zooropa wrote:Yep - anyone skilled in negotiation knows that, that is the standard starting point.
With May, it's also her finishing point and I fear she's going to be terribly disappointed when she gets F-all out of Brusells.
Still...WTO terms can't be that bad...can they?
Re: UK General Election
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:32 pm
by Zooropa
Id take WTO over a bad deal.
But hey, i actually believe in my country and its people.
Re: UK General Election
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:39 pm
by newcastle
Zooropa wrote:Id take WTO over a bad deal.
But hey, i actually believe in my country and its people.
I think I may have given up on that about the same time as Father Christmas and God.
I hope you're right....for your sake and the sake of anyone else with a business or life in UK.
Personally..... I'm indifferent (although a further fall in sterling would not be good news for me)
Re: UK General Election
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:14 pm
by Horus
Personally..... I'm indifferent (although a further fall in sterling would not be good news for me)
You'll be pleased then to see that it rose against the $ on news of the forthcomming election
Baa, Baa,
Re: UK General Election
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:31 pm
by newcastle
Horus wrote:Personally..... I'm indifferent (although a further fall in sterling would not be good news for me)
You'll be pleased then to see that it rose against the $ on news of the forthcomming election
Baa, Baa,
Taking short term movements to new heights...or perhaps depths
It's fallen sharply since the Referendum and I expect it will fall further when we finally quit EU.
Re: UK General Election
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:22 am
by Horus
The IMF also revised Britain's growth forecast to 2.0 percent for 2017, up a half percentage point from January.
Obstfeld said an anticipated pullback in consumer spending after last year's UK vote to leave the European Union had so far failed to materialise. He added that uncertainty over Britain's snap elections announced on Tuesday would not necessarily change the outlook, but a clear mandate from the British people could help Brexit negotiations.
Baa, Baa
Re: UK General Election
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:41 am
by newcastle
Maurice Obstfeld, the IMF’s chief economist said the IMF stuck by its longer term forecast that Brexit would “reduce potential output and therefore be negative” for the UK economy.
An EU exit would also have “definite transition costs” for Britain after decades as a member of the bloc, he said.
“To the extent that a hard Brexit restricts the flow of labour [the economy will slow]; we have to recognise that one of the elements driving British growth has been an increasing labour supply”, said Mr Obstfeld