The Aga Khan made it to Aswan!newcastle wrote: Ghengis Khan and his merry men too.....and he got all the way to Vienna
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Shhh! Whisper it not abroad The British Empire worldwide. 
Smile! It confuses people
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And then you have the Crusaders...the American settlers (versus the native Americans)....the Spanish in South America...they all had "God on their side".Mad Dilys wrote:Shhh! Whisper it not abroad The British Empire worldwide.
Plus ca change....
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[quote="Mad Dilys"]Shhh! Whisper it not abroad The British Empire worldwide. [/quote
At it's height the Ottoman Empire was far more extensive and more powerful than the British Empire, extending beyond the Middle East into much of Asia and Eastern Europe. Do you imagine that they gained all of those territories by peaceful means? Of course not. They conquered them. Violently. History is a catalogue of conquerors and the conquered. They were not all European conquests. Far from it. But that's HISTORY. History should never be used to justify the perpetration of violence in the present day. The Middle East remains a hotbed of ancient enmities as between Shia and Sunni's. Much of the world is more peaceful nowadays. But Peace is often hard won and always fragile. Groups such as IS, Boko Haram, Al Shebab at al openly threaten that peace. Their avowed intention is to obliterate Shia's, Christians, Kurds, Jews, Hindu's, Buddhists and pretty much all of humanity except themselves and their adherents and to establish a worldwide (Sunni) Islamic Caliphate. And they seem to have made a pretty determined start. If they continue unabated how will the world look in ten or fifteen years from now?
[/quote At it's height the Ottoman Empire was far more extensive and more powerful than the British Empire, extending beyond the Middle East into much of Asia and Eastern Europe. Do you imagine that they gained all of those territories by peaceful means? Of course not. They conquered them. Violently. History is a catalogue of conquerors and the conquered. They were not all European conquests. Far from it. But that's HISTORY. History should never be used to justify the perpetration of violence in the present day. The Middle East remains a hotbed of ancient enmities as between Shia and Sunni's. Much of the world is more peaceful nowadays. But Peace is often hard won and always fragile. Groups such as IS, Boko Haram, Al Shebab at al openly threaten that peace. Their avowed intention is to obliterate Shia's, Christians, Kurds, Jews, Hindu's, Buddhists and pretty much all of humanity except themselves and their adherents and to establish a worldwide (Sunni) Islamic Caliphate. And they seem to have made a pretty determined start. If they continue unabated how will the world look in ten or fifteen years from now?
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Listen to these guy's Sinai is safe please book soon!.... 
http://egyptianstreets.com/2015/07/06/u ... gypt-safe/
Ps: I bet the James Bond lookalike is looking for a new job now...prat!
Pss: I see they are still using that 'tag of 900,000 British nationals visit Egypt annually creating estimate revenue of approximately $3.7 billion.
Yeh! really ? I reckon someone's 'smoothing the figures...
http://egyptianstreets.com/2015/07/06/u ... gypt-safe/
Ps: I bet the James Bond lookalike is looking for a new job now...prat!
Pss: I see they are still using that 'tag of 900,000 British nationals visit Egypt annually creating estimate revenue of approximately $3.7 billion.
Yeh! really ? I reckon someone's 'smoothing the figures...
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