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I wonder what John Bradley meant by ' This woman though was the exception'

Ebikatsu wrote:I wonder what John Bradley meant by ' This woman though was the exception'

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Maybe it was the equivalent of 'My Mohammed's different!' . [/face]

JOJO wrote: I bet he doesn't know anything about it!

really?

that kind of woman I think would make sure everyone would know she was going to be featured in a book.

She had no shame in telling a complete stranger she was purely used for sex and money!

My God how low can a body get

Ebikatsu wrote:I wonder what John Bradley meant by ' This woman though was the exception'

I don't know, I took it as him being sarcastic? as in she went around or thought she was the exception???

So......someones going to have to say it, if it's a member of this forum....come out come out whoever you are!
I'd admit to it, the bus thing wouldn't bother me I'd just be chuffed I'd been mentioned in a book!

HEPZIBAH wrote:

Ebikatsu wrote:I wonder what John Bradley meant by ' This woman though was the exception'

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Maybe it was the equivalent of 'My Mohammed's different!' . [/face]

could be

Dear God you must see life down there in Luxor

Ebikatsu wrote: Dear God you must see life down there in Luxor

[face=Comic Sans MS]Now you know why some of us can only visit for a week or two at a time and not live there. [/face]

JOJO wrote:

Ebikatsu wrote:I wonder what John Bradley meant by ' This woman though was the exception'

I don't know, I took it as him being sarcastic? as in she went around or thought she was the exception???

So......someones going to have to say it, if it's a member of this forum....come out come out whoever you are!
I'd admit to it, the bus thing wouldn't bother me I'd just be chuffed I'd been mentioned in a book!

Oh God I would die

you are brave Jo Jo!!

HEPZIBAH wrote:

Ebikatsu wrote: Dear God you must see life down there in Luxor

[face=Comic Sans MS]Now you know why some of us can only visit for a week or two at a time and not live there. [/face]

Bloody hell!!

gotta go girls and boys. Desperate Housewives is on.

Hope this runs to 10 pages by tomorrow!!

Oh I just realised.......Desperate Housewives!!! LOL
get it?!! heh heh heh

Oh God! gotta see what's happening to Carlos and Gabrielle

Ebikatsu wrote: Can you imagine the embarrassment of the husband reading the other man thought she looked like she had been hit by a bus!!! he must have died of shame
I bet you he told all his mates in the cafe his wife was going to be in a book and died a death when they all read it

Ebikatsu-This is where you don't know Upper Egyptian men. Normally, an Upper Egyptian man would never allow his wife to talk to a journalist about their private life in the first place. It would be very shameful. And if he found out she had, he would likely divorce her. And he certainly would not brag about it to his friends. As you have said before, a man is not supposed to address another man's wife, so likewise, he would never brag about his wife being mentioned in a book either.

My experience with journalists is avoid them like a plague. I once gave a talk at a conference and my talk was quoted in an article by a journalist (who I never even talked to one-on-one), and used by the journalist to support a totally twisted view of the conference that was neither true nor one I agreed with. The irony of it was that the Egyptian government censored the paragraph where I was quoted because there was a very sinister quote from someone else in the paragraph. The article did appear in the online version of the paper. I wrote a letter to the editor of said paper praising the censors for their good work and shaming the newspaper for printing the article at all and they printed (or at least published online) my letter.

This book is really excellent and there is a lot of truth in it. However, the Luxor that is portrayed in this book is not my experience of it. Yes, there is a gay scene. but not being male of having any gay friends in Luxor I have had no exposure to it.

In regards to men marrying older women, again you see this all the time, but unless you are friends with the women that marry the older men then it doesn't really touch your life apart from being a spectator. I found Alaa's view on these foreign marriages interesting and understandable.

It makes Luxor sound like hell on earth and it isn't, the chapter is focusing on all the negatives but that this is what makes it an interesting and thought provoking read.

If I were to look at what goes on in my hometown in the UK, stabbings, rapes, drugs raid, teenage gangs etc etc it would make it sound a terrible place to live (and most people would say that yes, Reading is an awful place to live ) but all these things are not my experience of the town. I don't mix with these sort of people or go to places where I may encounter them.

I once met an expat in Luxor who has made his permanent home in Luxor. He complained about the UK, his neighbours and how awful the life was there. He then proceeded to run down the Egyptians, how the men were stupid and were like children. I believe that if you are the sort of person that looks for the negatives in life, it doesn't matter where you are, you will always ccomplain about the place you live and that it says more about you than the place that you live in.

Angela wrote: In regards to men marrying older women, again you see this all the time, but unless you are friends with the women that marry the older men then it doesn't really touch your life apart from being a spectator.

Not entirely true, because older foreign women who have no interest in the street riff raff will still get harassed by the street riff raff because there are enough older foreign women who fall for their charms to make them think it is worthwhile to harass and pursue those women. And the fact that these decent women don't like it and go home and tell their friends and families not to visit Egypt means that the economy is somewhat harmed by it. The men who marry the older women benefit financially, but it is harmful for everyone else foreign or Egyptian because of the indirect effects.

Angela wrote:
If I were to look at what goes on in my hometown in the UK, stabbings, rapes, drugs raid, teenage gangs etc etc it would make it sound a terrible place to live (and most people would say that yes, Reading is an awful place to live ) but all these things are not my experience of the town. I don't mix with these sort of people or go to places where I may encounter them.

Similar stuff happens in Luxor too, among Egyptians. It's just most foreigners know nothing about it.

You could also include, Cuba, Jamaica, The Gambia, Thailand & Spain..
Our Girls aren't fussy.

Our Girls aren't fussy.

Nor our men either come to that!

Glyphdoctor wrote:

Ebikatsu wrote: Can you imagine the embarrassment of the husband reading the other man thought she looked like she had been hit by a bus!!! he must have died of shame
I bet you he told all his mates in the cafe his wife was going to be in a book and died a death when they all read it

Ebikatsu-This is where you don't know Upper Egyptian men. Normally, an Upper Egyptian man would never allow his wife to talk to a journalist about their private life in the first place. It would be very shameful. And if he found out she had, he would likely divorce her. And he certainly would not brag about it to his friends. As you have said before, a man is not supposed to address another man's wife, so likewise, he would never brag about his wife being mentioned in a book either.

My experience with journalists is avoid them like a plague. I once gave a talk at a conference and my talk was quoted in an article by a journalist (who I never even talked to one-on-one), and used by the journalist to support a totally twisted view of the conference that was neither true nor one I agreed with. The irony of it was that the Egyptian government censored the paragraph where I was quoted because there was a very sinister quote from someone else in the paragraph. The article did appear in the online version of the paper. I wrote a letter to the editor of said paper praising the censors for their good work and shaming the newspaper for printing the article at all and they printed (or at least published online) my letter.

Glyph

No I'm well aware of the Upper Egyptian men because we have a lot of them here
That's why I said earlier that when I asked hubby on his thoughts he said 'decent men' wouldn't allow certain things to happen to their wives.

There are the 'decent' ones and the 'plague of locust' type in Luxor.

I'm sure Luxor must have it's share of 'decent men' but what we see as visitors is the mainly other type and clearly this woman's husband has no respect for her at all, in so many ways, and to be honest no respect for himself or of how he is thought of in the community at large.

How they can even carry on living there when his so called wife is talked about in a book in that way say's a whole lot about him, and her.

The embarrassment would make most with any dignity leave the area surely.

The only reason not to, is because from what I see they can't read and don't know about their 'local celebrity'





Getting back to the old guy with AIDS in the book.

So we can assume there must be quite a lot of HIV in Luxor then

Aren't the women terrified of catching that from these guys they pay to have sex with? I mean if it is so casual.

Believe it or not, a large number of men in Luxor would rather their foreign wife look like she was run over by a bus than be a supermodel so I don't think a husband would be offended by that remark necessarily. Some don't trust foreign women won't cheat on them and they think if they marry one so fat and/or ugly "that no man in her country would look at her," then they will get a faithful wife.

Can't find a copy of this for love nor money, wanted to get one from the library and they don't have it on their records.

May have to buy one although all my money is going towards the moving fund unless anyone nearby can lend me one?

Thanks x

Yes I inquired at the library about it and they don't have it.It's on Amazon but it's quite expensive.
Didn't someone say it was coming out in Paperback soon?

JOJO wrote:Yes I inquired at the library about it and they don't have it.It's on Amazon but it's quite expensive.
Didn't someone say it was coming out in Paperback soon?

Yes, It is available for pre-order now . . . released Aug 4, 2009!

New Gal wrote:Can't find a copy of this for love nor money

You mean you can't find a young gigolo to give you a copy for either???