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Re: First time flying with the new regulations
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:53 am
by Winged Isis
Hepzibah, warning signs were posted at Aussie, Egyptian and Qatari airports (and I know others around the world) at least as early as August last year when I travelled through them. It's because it was the defective one that was exploding, not for terrorism reasons.
Re: First time flying with the new regulations
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:30 am
by Horus
Winged Isis wrote:Hepzibah, warning signs were posted at Aussie, Egyptian and Qatari airports (and I know others around the world) at least as early as August last year when I travelled through them. It's because it was the defective one that was exploding, not for terrorism reasons.
Wrong, that may have been the case back in August, but now the reason is intelligence obtained in recent weeks found that an al Qaeda affiliate was perfecting techniques for hiding explosives in batteries and battery compartments of electronic devices, otherwise if it were just faulty batteries then why would the ban only apply in certain travel areas?
Re: First time flying with the new regulations
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:50 am
by newcastle
As far as I'm aware the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone is still banned from airplanes (hold or cabin) because of the safety of its batteries.
Its dimensions would enable it to pass under the "terrorism" rules....but the safety issue overrides this.
This is my understanding of the posts by Hepzibah/WI.
Re: First time flying with the new regulations
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:03 pm
by Horus
The exploding batteries of some smart phones is a reason for them to be specifically banned, but the underlying reason for the ban is terrorism and not faulty batteries.
Re: First time flying with the new regulations
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:25 pm
by newcastle
Horus wrote:The exploding batteries of some smart phones is a reason for them to be specifically banned, but the underlying reason for the ban is terrorism and not faulty batteries.
Of course.
But WI & Hepzibah were specifically referring to the the Samsung Galaxy 7...where terrorism isn't the issue....and never commented (as far as I can see) on the current general terrorism-related ban (which, of course, doesn't apply to the Samsung Galaxy 7)
Re: First time flying with the new regulations
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:00 pm
by Horus
Yes after re-reading Hepzi's post it does look as if they were only talking about the Samsung phone ban,

but it is irrelevant now as the ban applies to all larger devices because of the terrorism threat which was the original point of this thread

Re: First time flying with the new regulations
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:11 pm
by newcastle
Not irrelevant...because on the size criteria, the Samsung Galaxy 7 would pass..
Moreover, many airports have now removed the notice about this particular phone as they feel, with all the publicity, people should know it's verboten.
I don't suppose many people still have and use them, following the recall.
Re: First time flying with the new regulations
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:22 pm
by Winged Isis
newcastle wrote:Horus wrote:The exploding batteries of some smart phones is a reason for them to be specifically banned, but the underlying reason for the ban is terrorism and not faulty batteries.
Of course.
But WI & Hepzibah were specifically referring to the the Samsung Galaxy 7...where terrorism isn't the issue....and never commented (as far as I can see) on the current general terrorism-related ban (which, of course, doesn't apply to the Samsung Galaxy 7)
Thank you newcastle. Exactly the point of
my post. A
particular brand was mentioned because of a
particular dangerous problem at that time. Apart from already knowing why from widespread news stories, I heard another passenger ask the checkpoint official why.
Re: First time flying with the new regulations
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:58 pm
by HEPZIBAH
I'm not going to search the DofT site to find the origin and date of the information. I don't have my laptop with me and I'm far too tired. I posted the information because it was very clearly stated on current KLM flight information. I have not seen this spelt out on other flight information that I have dealt with recently.
Re: First time flying with the new regulations
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:11 pm
by BENNU
HEPZIBAH wrote:I don't have my laptop with me and I'm far too tired.
I like your flag!

Re: First time flying with the new regulations
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:15 am
by Dusak
BENNU wrote:HEPZIBAH wrote:I don't have my laptop with me and I'm far too tired.
I like your flag!

Last week I had a spot on the bum that looked just like that.

Re: First time flying with the new regulations
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:21 am
by HEPZIBAH
BENNU wrote:HEPZIBAH wrote:I don't have my laptop with me and I'm far too tired.
I like your flag!

Thank you. So do I. :-)
Re: First time flying with the new regulations
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:01 am
by Who2
Remember those days when flying was considered posh, no mobile phones, look what it's come down to.
Smoking ban, bad behaviour by both-sides, Why ? 'simple lower standards, it alway's happens.
Nb: There are still 6 airlines that allow smoking.
And do people really need to tell all and sundry they just taking off
or just bloody landing ? self important prats the lot.....

Re: First time flying with the new regulations
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:39 pm
by Ruby Slippers
Who, you've reminded me of a time I was on a day coach trip to Belgium and there was a knowitall sitting in front of me who answered his mobile phone with the words "I'm out of the country at the moment." Although true, I thought the same words almost - pretentious prat!

Re: First time flying with the new regulations
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:16 pm
by John Landon
Meanwhile on United Airlines....
