Umm Ali
Moderators: DJKeefy, 4u Network
- Glyphdoctor
- Egyptian God
- Posts: 7525
- Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:48 pm
- Has thanked: 332 times
- Been thanked: 1015 times
- Gender:
Umm Ali
I want to make Umm Ali and if memory serves me right you are supposed to put it under the broiler to brown. However, all the recipes I find online just talk about putting it in the oven until it browns on top. I plan to make it with roqaq and I am wondering, broiler or not and how long does it usually need in the oven to turn brown?
- HEPZIBAH
- Luxor4u God
- Posts: 12174
- Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:15 pm
- Has thanked: 1606 times
- Been thanked: 2628 times
- Gender:
- Contact:
[face=Comic Sans MS]What is Roqaq?
Is a broiler what we in England would call a grill?
Am I right in thinking that Umm Ali is a kind of Rice Pudding? - If this is the case a Rice Pudding in the UK is something that is cooked fairly long and slowly in the oven and tends to form a brown skin eventually, depending slightly on the fat content of the milk used and especially if you have added some grated nutmeg to the top just before you put it in the oven. In recent years, certainly in the UK, there has been a fashion for using culinary blow torches on dishes which need a browned or crusty surface.
Sorry, I've not cooked Umm Ali so can only mentally equate it with Traditional Rice Pudding.[/face]
Is a broiler what we in England would call a grill?
Am I right in thinking that Umm Ali is a kind of Rice Pudding? - If this is the case a Rice Pudding in the UK is something that is cooked fairly long and slowly in the oven and tends to form a brown skin eventually, depending slightly on the fat content of the milk used and especially if you have added some grated nutmeg to the top just before you put it in the oven. In recent years, certainly in the UK, there has been a fashion for using culinary blow torches on dishes which need a browned or crusty surface.
Sorry, I've not cooked Umm Ali so can only mentally equate it with Traditional Rice Pudding.[/face]

it is what you do with what happens to you.
-Aldous Huxley
- Goddess
- Egyptian Pharaoh
- Posts: 3356
- Joined: Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:14 pm
- Location: Alex
- Has thanked: 51 times
- Been thanked: 46 times
- Gender:
- Contact:
We only ever put ours in the oven - never under the grill.
We normally get a bag of broken up puff pastry bits from the bakery for it, dump in a load of nuts, coconut, and some dried fruit and sugar and add warm milk - and a splosh of fresh cream on the top helps it to brown up really nicely. It's normally in the oven for about 30 mins - if it doesn't brown up in that time crank the oven up for another five mins.
We normally get a bag of broken up puff pastry bits from the bakery for it, dump in a load of nuts, coconut, and some dried fruit and sugar and add warm milk - and a splosh of fresh cream on the top helps it to brown up really nicely. It's normally in the oven for about 30 mins - if it doesn't brown up in that time crank the oven up for another five mins.

- BBLUX
- Egyptian God
- Posts: 7275
- Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:17 pm
- Location: Winter in West Bank, Luxor and La Vienne, France in Summer
- Has thanked: 104 times
- Been thanked: 357 times
- Gender:
- Contact:
I love Umm (Omm?) Ali
I was told that is was invented by a certain Ali's mother from scraps she had in her kitchen and it became popular from that time.
I find it varies depending on where you have it so I guess that reflects the original recipe. I thought some included bread rather that pastry. I know when I have it in El Nakhil it takes around 40 minutes to make so always order it at the same time as my main course. I think it is oven baked rather than broiled (grilled). I think a little sugar sprinkled over the top would caramelise and help the topping to brown. You could always get one of those little kitchen blow torches used for creme broulais (spelling?)
I was told that is was invented by a certain Ali's mother from scraps she had in her kitchen and it became popular from that time.
I find it varies depending on where you have it so I guess that reflects the original recipe. I thought some included bread rather that pastry. I know when I have it in El Nakhil it takes around 40 minutes to make so always order it at the same time as my main course. I think it is oven baked rather than broiled (grilled). I think a little sugar sprinkled over the top would caramelise and help the topping to brown. You could always get one of those little kitchen blow torches used for creme broulais (spelling?)

Life is not measured by the breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
- Glyphdoctor
- Egyptian God
- Posts: 7525
- Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:48 pm
- Has thanked: 332 times
- Been thanked: 1015 times
- Gender:
Thanks everyone. I don't have any cream on hand but I will try it in the oven and if it doesn't get brown fast enough I will just turn up the temperature as Goddess suggests.
I saw the most amazing thing on TV once. This guy made a French bread pizza with a real blowtorch! He told everyone not to attempt it at home, and rather to use a broiler, but it was a real inspiration and it is one of our favorites to eat now. I've used my Microwave grill for it and the oven broiler.
I saw the most amazing thing on TV once. This guy made a French bread pizza with a real blowtorch! He told everyone not to attempt it at home, and rather to use a broiler, but it was a real inspiration and it is one of our favorites to eat now. I've used my Microwave grill for it and the oven broiler.