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Ahram Online compiles the full unofficial results of the constitution referendum's first round.

Note: All results are from governorates' presiding judges, except Cairo's, which are from the tallies of the Freedom and Justice Party, the Popular Current operation centre and Al-Jazeera TV network. The final official result is to be announced after the second round, due on 22 December.

Total:

"Yes": 4,595,311 (56.50 per cent)

"No": 3,536,838 (43.50 per cent)
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Cairo:

"Yes": 950,532 (43.1 per cent)

"No": 1,256,248 (56.9 per cent)

Assiut:

"Yes": 449,431 (76.08 per cent)

"No": 141,244 (23.92 per cent)

Sharqiya:

"Yes": 736,929 (65.94 per cent)

"No": 380,520 (34.16 per cent)

Aswan:

"Yes": 149,020 (76.65 per cent)

"No": 45,396 (23.35 per cent)

North Sinai:

"Yes": 50,726 (78.06 per cent)

"No": 14,256 (21.94 per cent)

Sohag:

"Yes": 468,138 (79 per cent)

"No": 125,810 (21 per cent)

Daqahliya:

"Yes": 647,489 (55.1 per cent)

"No": 525,713 (44.9 per cent)

Alexandria:

"Yes": 665,985 (55.6 per cent)

"No": 531,221 (44.4 per cent)

Gharbiya:

"Yes": 468,243 (49.87 per cent)

"No": 509,972 (52.13 per cent)

South Sinai:

"Yes": 8818 (57.72 per cent)

"No": 6458 (42.48 per cent)

Source: http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/60607.aspx

This is not the news the IMF wanted to hear.

Should we have hoped that the electorate would have been bribed to vote against their consciences, by the promise of IMF funds, then? Don't we believe that the Egyptians shoulder ever be allowed to determine their own future?
New political awareness and responsibility offer only a hard road, and while outsiders should be willing to offer help, surely the people of any country must make their own mistakes (or whatever) in order to learn and move forward?

But will the Egyptian electorate learn or take responsibility for their mistakes Teddy or will it be easier for them to blame America and "Zionists conspiracies" (as usual)?

Teddyboy wrote:Should we have hoped that the electorate would have been bribed to vote against their consciences, by the promise of IMF funds, then? Don't we believe that the Egyptians shoulder ever be allowed to determine their own future?
New political awareness and responsibility offer only a hard road, and while outsiders should be willing to offer help, surely the people of any country must make their own mistakes (or whatever) in order to learn and move forward?

There seems to be an assumption here that it's all over! Just under half of eligible voters have still to make their mark.

If I may borrow a TB-ism .... am I being thick about the IMF? The IMF has been negotiating for months with a government that wants a "yes" vote in order to get a "no" vote?

" will it be easier for them to blame America and "Zionists conspiracies" "

That, more or less, goes without saying! The people who form the opinions of the majority here will always tell them that. And many (otherwise sane) people actually believe it!

It remains to be seen how even worse hardships will influence the ordinary Egyptian's future. Will he turn more to the meagre comfort offered by Islamic fatalism, or strive for a better here and now, where his family might not have to suffer constant hunger, and the degradation of victim-hood, at the behest of 'learned' men?

There seems to be an assumption that it's all over! Just under half the eligible voters have yet to make their mark.

No Egyptian is going to get all that they want out of the constitution. I know its a bit of a stretch, but about 30% of the delegates who attended didn’t agree to the US constitution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constituti ... _States%29
and there there was lots of non-attendance in that one too, but those who lost the vote gave in to majority opinion. After all they were aiming for a democracy where majority opinion counts and you agree to fight another day.

The founding fathers may have been aiming for liberty Hafiz but the fear of those who object to the draft constitution is the Brotherhood aren't. An Islamist dictatorship is their fear.

Stevepj wrote:the fear of those who object to the draft constitution is the Brotherhood aren't. An Islamist dictatorship is their fear.

Some people, possibly, but not the politicians, surely? They seem set on subverting the will of the people. At times it seems more like sedition than responsible opposition! Do they believe that in the three and a half years until the next presidential election Mr Morsi and the Brothers are going to overthrow the constitution? Well, less than two years ago the people overthrew an Islamic dictator, so I expect they can overthrow an "Islamist" dictator if the need arises. Though, the next time, the Brothers will have to be in full control of the Armed Forces!

The opposition politicians (or would be politicians) would do well to note Hafiz's words: After all they were aiming for a democracy where majority opinion counts and you agree to fight another day.

The wannabe politicians will have their second chance in the second round (remember they objected to the short time to prepare for the first round so the split rounds should have some benefit for them).

It should be interesting to see whether they take advantage of this 'delay' to put in the hard work to get the votes the second time around or whether they just want to whine in Cairo.

Hafiz wrote:The wannabe politicians will have their second chance in the second round (remember they objected to the short time to prepare for the first round so the split rounds should have some benefit for them).

It should be interesting to see whether they take advantage of this 'delay' to put in the hard work to get the votes the second time around or whether they just want to whine in Cairo.

It would seem not ... especially in the case of Luxor! In spite of claims that the constitution would harm tourism the No lobby managed to muster nearly 41,000 votes here, while the Yes campaign won a resounding victory. Unofficial results after the second round indicate that Egypt has approved the new constitution by 64 per cent.

Low turnouts, especially in Luxor's case where only 25 per cent of eligible voters went to the polls...

YES 133, 880 - 76.62 per cent
NO 40,841 - 23.37 per cent

The full unofficial results for Egypt are at http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent ... ution.aspx