Isn't he just saying that in Islam there is no concept of a girlfriend, meaning no pre-marital sex? It does not seem like a too radical of an idea.
Re: Give a girl one flower means a nail in your head
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:28 pm
by Dusak
Just because you have a girl/boyfriend doesn't have to mean that its a sexual relationship. Suspicious minds.
Re: Give a girl one flower means a nail in your head
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:32 pm
by Brian Yare
Give a girl a flower and she will love you for a few hours, give a girl a packet of seeds and she can grow her own.
Re: Give a girl one flower means a nail in your head
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:11 am
by pdmlynek
Dusak wrote:Just because you have a girl/boyfriend doesn't have to mean that its a sexual relationship. Suspicious minds.
Well, I suspect that is what Abu Mounisa in the video meant. The title of the video itself is “#Day 24: No Girlfriends”.
And while I do not know how things were when you were growing up, but to me, and to people who are growing up today, the word “girl/boyfriend” definitely means a sexual relationship. To be honest, what is the point of having a girlfriend if there is no sex? If there is no sex, would she not just be a "friend"?
Re: Give a girl one flower means a nail in your head
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:08 am
by Dusak
If the only point of having a girl friend is to get a regular supply of sex, then its not a true relationship in my eyes. What about companionship, just being with someone that you care about and enjoy being with. To share life's experiences before moving on. Yes, everybody gains enjoyment from the act, but its not the be-end to all. I was a renowned flower giver in my time as I like flowers, but it was just a sign of appreciation towards a friends returned friendship or in marriage to release me from the dog house or apologize for something that I hadn't yet done but she thought I had. Perhaps I may now have to re-think my outlook as my Egyptian friend is always bringing me flowers that she nicks out of her friends large garden.
Re: Give a girl one flower means a nail in your head
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:40 pm
by dsaxelby
pdmlynek wrote:
Dusak wrote:Just because you have a girl/boyfriend doesn't have to mean that its a sexual relationship. Suspicious minds.
Well, I suspect that is what Abu Mounisa in the video meant. The title of the video itself is “#Day 24: No Girlfriends”.
And while I do not know how things were when you were growing up, but to me, and to people who are growing up today, the word “girl/boyfriend” definitely means a sexual relationship. To be honest, what is the point of having a girlfriend if there is no sex? If there is no sex, would she not just be a "friend"?
Ah but now there are new definitions of friend ' a friend with benefits' suspect does not involve flowers (or possibly)
Re: Give a girl one flower means a nail in your head
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:51 pm
by Dusak
Yes, another Americanization that we have had thrust upon us, but we British have the stiff upper lip, no need to drop below the chin line to seek gratification and all that, what!
I really do wish these damn vids would stop playing. Talk about ghosts in the machine. And now we have a power cut!
Re: Give a girl one flower means a nail in your head
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:59 pm
by pdmlynek
Dusak wrote:If the only point of having a girl friend is to get a regular supply of sex, then its not a true relationship in my eyes. What about companionship, just being with someone that you care about and enjoy being with. ...
Well, that’s fine, and I understand what you are saying, but that is not what most people who the above video was aimed at think. Most young people do believe that boyfriend/girlfriend relationship means a sexual relationship.
To me the video uses flower giving as a simple example of expressing romantic overtones, which in turn may lead to romance, which in turn lead to a sexual relationship. It is the pre-marital sexual relationship that the video seeks to mitigate, not flower-giving.
Otherwise what would be the point of the video, then?
Re: Give a girl one flower means a nail in your head
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:20 pm
by Who2
Can't be bothered perusing all the above posts..but as I read it.....
"Give a girl one, means deflowering a bird in your bed..but then I'm not some frustrated 'beardy spouting a load of old 'bo***ks...
Re: Give a girl one flower means a nail in your head
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:07 pm
by LovelyLadyLux
I understand what being sexually repressed means in our society, wonder what it really means in Muslim society?
Re: Give a girl one flower means a nail in your head
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:31 am
by Dusak
LovelyLadyLux wrote:I understand what being sexually repressed means in our society, wonder what it really means in Muslim society?
Exactly the same the whole world over. PS; this vid playing on its own is really getting on my tit.
Re: Give a girl one flower means a nail in your head
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:33 am
by BENNU
Dusak wrote: PS; this vid playing on its own is really getting on my tit.
I haven't watched it yet - all I can see is a black box. So not knowing what is in the video: You can have a relation without sex and sex without a relation.
Re: Give a girl one flower means a nail in your head
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:36 pm
by pdmlynek
BENNU wrote:...
I haven't watched it yet - all I can see is a black box. So not knowing what is in the video: ...