Just been reading about Tut's tomb and the wall decoration. One of the scenes depicts, what is described as "Nefertiti as Pharaoh welcomed by the goddess Nut," now this might seem a stupid question for those of you much more knowledgeable than me, why is she described as a pharaoh? I thought that pharaoh's wore the double crown and even female pharaohs had a false beard what makes the painting that of a pharaoh?
Re: Tut's Tomb
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:50 am
by newcastle
Not a stupid question at all. The iconography of the pharaohs and gods on tomb depictions is highly varied and not at all consistent.
Nicholas Reeves has a theory that the depiction of Tut being greeted by Nut is actually one of Nefertiti.....buried as a pharaoh having assumed that role following the death of Akhenaton. Some egyptologists believe Nefertiti ruled as king Neferneferuaten, a somewhat ephemeral individual whose cartouches (in some cases overwritten ) appear of several of the grave goods of Tut.
Re: Tut's Tomb
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:18 am
by Winged Isis
Any word on when and where the announcement will be made?
Re: Tut's Tomb
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:59 pm
by BBLUX
Tut's tomb was reopened today according to media sources. Also the radar survey is set to commence tomorrow.
Re: Tut's Tomb
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:51 pm
by newcastle
The Antiquities Ministry has announced that Tutankhamun's tomb in Luxor will be photographed over a period of two days, starting Thursday.
Scientists will be using infrared technology, in cooperation with Cairo University's Faculty of Engineering and the Paris Institute of Heritage Preservation and Innovation, in order to detect a hidden chamber that British Egyptologist Nicholas Reeves believes is Queen Nefertiti's tomb.
Antiquities Minister Mamdouh al-Damati said permits were obtained from all incumbent authorities.
Egypt's Ministry of Antiquities says infrared thermography scanning on Tutankhamun's tomb will begin Thursday, to test Nicholas Reeves' theory that it houses hidden burial chambers
Re: Tut's Tomb
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:49 am
by Frater0082
I can't take it anymore
Re: Tut's Tomb
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:41 am
by Winged Isis
From Bernard's blog (just one site to quote 4th as the announcement of radar results, not when they would start the work.
"Dr. Mamdouh El-Damaty has promised that on the 4th November, the day the tomb was discovered by Howard Carter, the radar results will be announced.
Full Article with Photos at: http://egyptmyluxor.weebly.com"
Not that I'm surprised it didn't happen, though I did hope a little, considering foreign institutions were involved. Oh well. Back to holding our breaths.
Re: Tut's Tomb
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:33 am
by Winged Isis
Ministry of Antiquities
Press Office
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A very important press conference will be held in collaboration between the Ministry of Antiquities, Faculty of Engineering – Cairo University and HIP Institute – Paris at the Giza Plateau to declare the preliminary results of the “Scanpyramids project”. The conference starts at 5:00 pm, Monday 9 November 2015 in front of the Funerary Temple at the Eastern side of Khufu (Cheops) Pyramid.
The preliminary infrared thermography experiment will be displayed live.
Re: Tut's Tomb
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:03 am
by Winged Isis
From the Dept of Antiquities on pyramid scans and Tut's tomb:
Radar survey underway at Tutankhamun's tomb in Luxor
British Egyptologist Nicholas Reeves has suggested that Nefertiti's mummy could be located in a secret chamber hidden in the tomb
Nevine El-Aref in Luxor, Friday 27 Nov 2015
The first radar tests were carried out on Thursday on the north, west and south walls of King Tutankhamun's burial chamber; the second radar investigation is due to take place on Friday afternoon and will take readings of the same walls to confirm the data.
Eldamaty told Ahram Online that Friday's investigation was conducted to double check the results taken yesterday. He added that a second test-run is to be also.carried out on Friday evening on the tomb of King Ramses II by the research team.
If the radar investigation proves Reeves' theory, asserted Eldamaty, "it would be the discovery of the century."
Reeves describes the data collected by the radar on the walls as "intriguing" but nothing can be confirmed yet until the data has been analysed scientifically and archaeologically.
He did say however that the data reveals a high probability of differences in the wall's design.
On Saturday an international press conference is to be held at Howard Cater's rest house on Luxor's West Bank to announce the final result of the radar survey.
Tests were also carried out earlier this week on a couple of known sealed vault within K.V. 5 to test the apparatus to ensure it does 'what it says on the can'. These tests were successful.
Myself, I am not sure that the North wall will reveal much, however, if I am wrong then I expect the West wall will reveal a long tunnel, but we shall see.
Re: Tut's Tomb
Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:53 pm
by Scottishtourist
A stupid question from ST.
Please be gentle with me..and don't all jump in at once with character assassination!
In simple laymans terms please..why will the discovery of Nefertiti's mummy be so important?
Will it solve a great mystery?
Will it provide answers to questions that have been baffling Egyptologists for years?
Is her mummy a "missing link" in study of ancient Egyptian family,much like all these discoveries of ancient ancestors skeletons in caves in South Africa,etc?
Or will it merely be a discovery that will encourage tourism to the area,and by doing so thrust Luxor back into the world's spotlight?
It's a serious question.
What will the discovery of Nefertiti's final resting place mean for you?
Re: Tut's Tomb
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:08 am
by Scottishtourist
P.s,whether or not it's a great discovery..it ain't gonna bring the tourists back!
It may bring back a whole lot of Egyptologists,staying on West Bank to gawp and "ooh and ah"at the discovery..but they ain't gonna add a whole lot to the Luxor economy!
Package tourists to Luxor share same opinion as I do.
Seen one tomb..you've seen them all!
Only people who will be excited about this are Egyptologists.
And they ain't gonna contribute much to Luxor economy.
Guarantee that tour companies will not even be able to fill a bus with tourists who want to visit this wondrous site!
Only the dedicated hardliners will be interested..and they are very few and far between!
Are my Egyptian friends interested in this?
Nope..they're more interested in the future tourists who will come and provide the money to put food on their tables!
Re: Tut's Tomb
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:49 am
by newcastle
As neither you nor your friends have any interest in egyptology why would anyone bother to answer your questions about Nefertiti or what's going on in Tut's tomb?
You could just have asked "will a discovery make any difference to tourism in Luxor ".
The answer to that is "NO".
Cut the crap and just come and enjoy whatever you personally get out of Egypt / Luxor .
Re: Tut's Tomb
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:04 am
by Winged Isis
Here 'tis:
Re: Tut's Tomb
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:24 am
by Brian Yare
http://www.nilemagazine.com.au/2015-nov ... means-good
Yesterday Dr Nicholas Reeves described the data collected by the radar scans of Tutankhamun's tomb as "intriguing". But we were left wondering if that meant 'good' or 'bad'?
Now we know.
“Obviously it’s an entrance to something,” the radar specialist scanning the tomb revealed, “It’s very deep.”
In a press conference, fittingly held at Howard Carter's Rest House on Luxor's West Bank, the Minister of Antiquities, Dr. Mamdouh El-Damaty, made the big announcement.
The radar scans of Tutankhamun's Burial Chamber have revealed that there is a large void behind what we now know is a false wall in Tutankhamun's Burial Chamber.
What's behind? The number one candidate is a missing Queen: Nefertiti.
The radar scans revealed that the transition from solid bedrock to masonry is stark. There is a straight, vertical line - the line that Nicholas Reeves first spotted earlier this year on high-definition scans of the tomb wall.
It strongly suggests that the antechamber continues through the burial chamber as a corridor.
Reeves believes that what looks like a solid, painted wall, is actually a ruse designed to foil tomb robbers. A number of other tombs in the Valley of the Kings used the same device. Tutankhamun's seems to be the only one that worked.
So what's next?
The Minister of Antiquities suggests that the next step is to drill as small hole in the wall of the side room known as the Treasury. It adjoins the "void" behind the wall in the Burial Chamber, and, importantly, it has no painted decoration that could be damaged.
If a camera reveals artefacts within the chamber behind the wall, then a tunnel starting from the Treasury might be the best bet.
But for now, let's congratulate Dr. Nicholas Reeves for the results so far. He spotted something that ancient thieves, Howard Carter, and hundreds of scientists since missed - the outline of a hidden doorway in Tutankhamun's tomb.
Re: Tut's Tomb
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:38 am
by newcastle
Hawass is hurriedly hiding his hats. Seems it's not just rock behind that wall.
Whether it's anything more than empty spàce...we'll have to see.