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Walt Disney.

Post by Scottishtourist »

Over past few weeks leading up to Christmas period we have been treated to telly screenings of Walt Disney animation films.
Some have never before been screened on television.e.g "Jungle Book."

Others have,but were still devoured with great gusto.
A few days ago I watched programme with my little grandaughters where the best Disney song was chosen.Much to their little hearts' dismay,it wasn't "Let it Go"from "Frozen,"but was "The Bare Necessities"from "Jungle Book."
Must admit,I was kinda disappointed too.Own personal favourite is "King of the Swingers".and thought it would win hands' down.

"Googling" Walt Disney to replay these songs for the wee ones,I came across some interesting items.It has been documented that Walt was a Master Freemason and his films were full of sublimal messages..references to sex,masonic symbols,even satanism!

Do you think this is true?Or is it a conspiracy theory put forward by those who didn't take his films at face value..and were jealous of his success?

Do these suggestions deter you from watching his films..or does it make you more eager to view them and spot these scenes?

Or,do you just sit back and watch them,take them at face value,and enjoy them with children (even re-discovering your own childhood)..and try hard to forget that you ever read these reports?

For me,it will always be the latter.


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Im sure its just coincidence that in the case of the earlier films at least, all of the "baddies" were foreign and all the goodies good ole Americans.
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Disney Studios paid 4 Billion $$ for the rights to Star Wars. So far the latest Star Wars has brought in 1 Billion at the box office which is a mere drop in the bucket of ALL things Star Wars!

Methinks those in charge at Disney definitely have licencing down to a fine art.

As for me subliminal messages are too subliminal. ;) ;)
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I'm of the opinion that you can not beat the quality of the cartoons of my childhood years. To days are just too much PC. No longer are the baddies mashed beneath a pile of rocks or the mouse always came out on top. As mentioned, the old cartoons quite commonly contained a 'slightly' hidden message as to what was good and bad in life, especially towards men wearing head gear and waving swords around. ;) Some time ago I was watching a documentary about the new generation of Anima cartoons, cartoons showing all forms of sex between both adults and kids. All perfectly legal, all perfectly sick. It was only last year that Japan made such imaging illegal. Give me Tom and Jerry any day. :up
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Dusak wrote:I'm of the opinion that you can not beat the quality of the cartoons of my childhood years. To days are just too much PC. No longer are the baddies mashed beneath a pile of rocks or the mouse always came out on top. As mentioned, the old cartoons quite commonly contained a 'slightly' hidden message as to what was good and bad in life, especially towards men wearing head gear and waving swords around. ;) Some time ago I was watching a documentary about the new generation of Anima cartoons, cartoons showing all forms of sex between both adults and kids. All perfectly legal, all perfectly sick. It was only last year that Japan made such imaging illegal. Give me Tom and Jerry any day. :up
Absolutely!!

Tom & Jerry never fails to make me laugh.

My little Egyptian 'grandchild ' knocks on my door at all hours demanding 'oota & farr' ( the cat and the mouse).

He's not in the least perturbed to see Tom emerge unscathed from an industrial mincer or to see Jerry peel himself of the floor after being splattered by a giant fly swat.

Fortunately most kids manage to grow up to distinguish between fantasy and reality when it comes to cartoon violence although I do wonder about the long term effects of cartoons depicting more 'conventional ' violence, guns and the like.
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Post by HEPZIBAH »

I recently watched Saving Mr. Banks, the film about the making of Mary Poppins and the business/working relationship between Walt Disney and P. L. Travers the author. The portrayal of Walt Disney was that of a much gentler man than I had always thought him to be (not that I've ever given him much thought).

I'm not aware of ever having noticed subliminal messages in Disney films, but like most artistic things - art, music, books, and films - the viewer can add their own interpretation too. I do find that most, if not all, of the Disney films contain moral tales emphasing the power of good over bad.

One thing the Saving Mr Banks film did well, for me at least, although not all my viewing companions saw it, was to identify where P.L. Travers had found her original key characters for Mary Poppins.
Anyone who has read the Mary Poppins books will find that they are much darker than the film which, lovely though it is, is a bit frothy in parts.
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Probably the best Disney film I have ever enjoyed, but doubt if anyone on here has watched it, except round my place... :cool:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086005/?ref_=nv_sr_1
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Post by LovelyLadyLux »

Probably the best Disney film I have ever enjoyed, but doubt if anyone on here has watched it, except round my place... :cool:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086005/?ref_=nv_sr_1
Reading Farley Mowat is compulsory here Who2 and his movie shown in schools on auditorium days.

Farley was a remarkable man, excellent writer and is much admired and well known here :) :) He is one of my favourite authors and while he may fictionalize some his writing is very much bang on what you get around here. I think I've read almost everything he has written.
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