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Monkey claims ownership of copyright

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:29 am
by newcastle
If you thought the "silly season" for news was over....think again!

In 2011, Naruto, a curious 6-year-old monkey in Indonesia, peered into a camera lens, grinned and pressed the shutter button on the unattended camera. Little did the endangered crested macaque know that he may have been providing for his future.

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The selfie of his bucktooth smile and wide amber eyes made Naruto an internet celebrity. But the widely shared image became embroiled in a novel and lengthy lawsuit over whether the monkey owned the rights to it. Naruto lost the first round in federal court in California in 2016, but won a victory of sorts in a settlement on Monday for himself and his friends.

The camera’s owner, David J. Slater, agreed to donate 25 percent of future revenue of the images taken by the monkey to charitable organizations that protect Naruto, who lives in the Tangkoko Reserve on the Indonesian island of Sulawesi, and other crested macaques. Lawyers for Mr. Slater, a British photographer, and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, which sued Mr. Slater on Naruto’s behalf, also asked the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, which was hearing an appeal in the case, to drop the lawsuit and vacate a lower decision that found the monkey could not own the image’s copyright.

“PETA and David Slater agree that this case raises important, cutting-edge issues about expanding legal rights for nonhuman animals, a goal that they both support, and they will continue their respective work to achieve this goal,” the groups said in a joint statement on Monday.

Mr. Slater could not be reached for comment, and his lawyer declined to comment. Jeff Kerr, the general counsel for PETA, said the group was pleased that Naruto would benefit from the images.

“The dire need of Naruto is what fully underpins why we pursued this lawsuit to begin with,” Mr. Kerr said in an interview. “We wanted every bit of all of the proceeds to benefit Naruto.”

It is not clear how much money will be directed to charitable organizations from sales of the image. Mr. Kerr said he did not know how much money Mr. Slater had made on past sales.

Mr. Slater, a freelance photographer, told The Guardian in July that he could not afford to fly to California from England for an appeals court hearing and was considering other sources of income. “I’m even thinking about doing dog walking,” he told the publication.

Naruto snapped the image during a 2011 trip by Mr. Slater to the nature reserve on Sulawesi, one of the few habitats for crested macaques, black monkeys with sloping faces and short tails. He mounted the camera on a tripod and set it to autofocus when Naruto approached, looked into the lens and pressed the button.

Mr. Slater published the photographs in his book, “Wildlife Personalities,” and fought with groups, including the Wikimedia Foundation, that used the image without permission. But the Wikimedia Foundation refused and said the photograph was in the public domain.

Copyright law in the United States grants ownership rights for images to the person who took it. PETA had argued that because Naruto was the rightful owner because he physically pressed the shutter button to create the image. But Judge William H. Orrick of the United States District Court in San Francisco disagreed and ruled in January 2016 that animals were not included in copyright law.

Mr. Kerr said that Naruto still lives in the Tangkoko Reserve, where he is fed daily by park workers and is a popular attraction. But crested macaques there are under constant threat by poachers, and the mammals are considered critically endangered.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/11/us/s ... ml?mcubz=0

On the BBC this morning a PETA spokeswoman was asked why the organisation was spending funds on this case and her answer was that it their aim to "expand the boundaries of animal rights".

She mentioned that, until relatively recently, women were regarded as the "property" of men ( I'm not sure how women should view this "equivalence" )and that the concept of individual rights should be extended to animals.

Whether that would be our close cousins, or only cute and cuddly ones, remained unanswered.

Should spiders be afforded rights against being arbitrarily squashed?

We do , of course, already have legislation to protect animals from unnecessary cruelty.....well..... in some countries. But rights of "copyright ownership"?

Should freedom of speech.....or rather barking, meowing, squawking... be extended to other species??

Could you be sued by your pet rabbit for it being "held against its will, in a hutch"?
Spoiler
If you're thinking I've got too much time on my hands....you may be right :lol:

Re: Monkey claims ownership of copyright

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:01 pm
by Dusak
Its far better than some of the selfies I've seen on FB taken by more so called intelligent bipeds.

Re: Monkey claims ownership of copyright

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:21 pm
by HEPZIBAH
Typical! Humans and apes all want to claim responsibility if they think there's going to be some money in it, even if they were only monkeying around at the time. ;) :lol:

Re: Monkey claims ownership of copyright

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:40 pm
by newcastle
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn monkey's.

Only in America......land of the ludicrous lawsuit. :lol:

Re: Monkey claims ownership of copyright

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:34 am
by John Landon
Monkeys, monkeys everywhere down here

I told George Taylor to keep Icarus to the right during the 5000 year journey, bit he didn't listen.

Ah well, **** happens
I hope they don't get guns and religion, or this place is doomed.... Doomed I tell ya. :cg

Adiós Gringos
8)

Re: Monkey claims ownership of copyright

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:56 am
by FarleyFlavors
John Landon wrote:I told George Taylor to keep Icarus to the right during the 5000 year journey, bit he didn't listen.
*2000-year journey.

Re: Monkey claims ownership of copyright

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:31 pm
by John Landon
In no particular order
Mandarins baboons gorillas and chimps.
Genetically modified apes, and I know that if I was responsible for those creations, I would want to retire to a safe distance..... :cg

Hell, let's take it one step further and give em religion and guns, and throw money and politics into the mix, just for shits and giggles.....

What can possibly go wrong. ? :up

Welcome to the greatest show on earth, pay the price, get your ticket for the show. !!!!!

Re: Monkey claims ownership of copyright

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:49 pm
by newcastle
Mandarins?

Have you got something against the Chinese?? :lol:

Re: Monkey claims ownership of copyright

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:28 am
by Dusak
:tk JL may have been thinking of a mandarin orange utan :lol:

Re: Monkey claims ownership of copyright

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:46 pm
by John Landon
That's the one. Cheers D. :up

Re: Monkey claims ownership of copyright

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:30 pm
by John Landon
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My favourite monkeys...

I was shopping at a county market we used to visit when I was a kid, and this came on over the air, I was happily singing along to it as I was pushing my trolley and when the chorus hit, it was like some cheesy 1970's commercial and everyone in that department joined in.

It made my day.... :br